Battleboarding Explained

Battleboarding, also known as Versus Debating and "Who Would Win" Debating, is an activity that involves discussing and debating around hypothetical fights between individuals; most popularly, fictional characters.[1] [2] [3] These debates are often held in forums, blogs, sites and wikis, known as versus sites or battle boards.[1] Netizens who engage in battleboarding online are often called "battleboarders".[2]

The earliest iterations of battleboarding first appeared in various online boards and forums, though its origins can be traced back to magazines, television shows, and comic book letter columns.[1] Eventually, the online activity grew, becoming one of the most popular internet activities today, and spawning many online communities dedicated solely for battleboarding.[3] It soon evolved into its own subculture, and even went on to inspire other media.[1]

History

Origins

Before the advent of the internet, articles about hypothetical fights were published in magazines.[1] These articles range from topics like sports, comics and anime, such as Black Belt Magazine issue May 1997 which discussed about a hypothetical match between Muhammad Ali and Bruce Lee,[4] and Wizard Magazine #133 which discussed about various hypothetical fights between American comic characters against Japanese anime characters.[5] [1] During that time, many comic book publishers also conceptualized and published "versus" storylines like Batman Versus Predator and Justice League/Avengers.[6] [7]

Other inspiration behind battleboarding were television shows and documentaries whose premise involved hypothetical fights concerning a variety of subjects like zoology, paleontology, and military history. These include shows such as Animal Face-Off (which pitted animals against each other),[8] Deadliest Warrior (which pitted historical warriors, oftentimes from different time periods, against each other),[9] and Jurassic Fight Club (which was about analyzing cases where different types of dinosaurs fought one another).[1] Death Battle, a web series about pitting fictional characters against each other that began in 2010, is a similar show that soon inspired many battleboarding communities and fandoms.[1] [2] Death Battle itself popularized the use of "calcs", which are mathematical equations that try to calculate how strong a character or weapon is.[2] Other popular web series about the subject include Super Power Beat Down and Grudge Match.[1] [10]

Forums and Sites

Many internet forums about movies, comics, anime, and video games often held discussions about hypothetical fights between fictional characters from these media.[7] These discussions would be the first iteration of online battleboarding. One of the oldest and longest-running battleboarding forum is Comic Vines "battle forum", whose first post was in 2007.[1] [2] [3] Comic Vine also has one of the largest impacts on battleboarding, creating many common rules and terminologies such as "bloodlusted", "morals are off", "speed equalized", and many others.[1] [11]

Another long-running battle forum is a subreddit called r/whowouldwin, where redditors can post and debate fictional fights about real or fictional individuals.[2] [3] Verdicts of these match-ups are often chosen by using evidences of a character's power, weakness, or feat, such as movie clips, comic book panel scans, and excerpts from related literature; all of which are posted and categorized in a separate subreddit called r/respectthreads.[1] Other influential battle forums include Fanverse, where users can post their own calcs about a fictional character's power level.

The popularity of battle forums inspired the creation of websites dedicated only for battleboarding.[1] These include The Outskirts Battle Dome, a website that popularized the use of "power levels" in battleboarding; stardestroyer.net, which focuses on the Star Wars vs. Star Trek debate and hosts a forum covering this as well as other battleboarding topics;[12] and Space Battles, a website whose forums and threads are filled with posts about hypothetical fights between fictional characters as well as other related topics.[13]

Another influential battleboarding site is the now defunct Fact Pile, and its sister site, FactPileTopia. Fact Pile is one of the first battleboarding site that actually listed down and documented winners of their match-ups. The site closed down in 2016 along with its forum, wikia, and YouTube channel.[1] Besides these, blogs about battleboarding were also created, such as dreager1.com.[14]

Wikis

Nowadays, the most popular battleboarding communities can be seen in Fandom, with two of the oldest and most popular being Deadliest Fiction and VS Battles Wiki.[1]

Deadliest Fiction is a Deadliest Warrior-inspired fanon created in July 2010 by a group of historians, academics, and pop culture enthusiasts.[2] [3] Being one of the most influential and accurate battleboarding sites around,[1] Deadliest Fiction allows users to create hypothetical match-ups in the form of blogs, where other users can vote and debate around who will win in the comment section. Once a verdict is reached, the site allows the user to create a simulated fanfiction of how the fight would happen.[2]

Around the same year in October, a similar battleboarding site named VS Battles Wiki was created.[1] [3] In the VS Battles Wiki, users can create profiles and power levels of fictional characters, post match-ups in its threads and forums, and list down the winners and losers of these threads in said character profiles.[2] The wiki is considered the most active wiki battleboarding site today, with over 1 million visitors per month.[1] However, throughout the years, the VS Battles Wiki has had its share of controversies, such as alleged inaccuracies in their profiles.[1] [2]

Subculture

In its rise in popularity, battleboarding has given birth to a unique online subculture with its own rules, activities, and terminologies.[1] [3] [2] Some of these influences have become present in other online communities and popular media. Some of the common slang and terminologies used in battleboarding subculture includes:

In other media

Battleboarding has gone on to inspire other media with its subculture and terminologies. Many web series such as "Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny", Seth The Programmer, and Jobbers and Goons were inspired by it.[1] [17] Internet personality Rainey Ovalle created a viral skit posted in Twitter that parodied battleboarding. In the skit, he and a friend debated a fight between Deku from My Hero Academia and Saitama from One Punch Man, with the argument getting increasingly and humorously intense.[7]

There have also been websites and fanfiction inspired by the online activity, most notably by Death Battle. These include the long-running G1 Death Battle Fan Blog, r/deathbattlematchups, and the popular Death Battle Fanon Wiki and DBX Fanon Wiki.[2] Death Battle also released its own dice and card game, complete with rules and effects taken from battleboarding.[2]

Invincible creator Robert Kirkman once participated in a similar debate concerning his character, Mark Grayson, against other famous comic book characters like Superman and Thanos.[18] Buzzfeed also has a category in their website concerning "Who Would Win In A Fight" debates.[19] According to video game developer Nick Antonis, the company Naxeex took inspiration for their superhero sandbox games from battleboarding shows and sites such as Death Battle and VS Battles Wiki. Antonis stated, "You can always count on them to be updated on new series and characters. Actually, a lot of our games, stories, and characters were inspired by these websites."[20] [21]

Notes and References

  1. Web site: Versus Sites and Battle Boards. Voice Media Group. Hannigan, Carl. August 6, 2023
  2. Web site: The 5 Best Battle Boards Online. Substack. Mountain, John. August 22, 2023
  3. Web site: General Terms in Battleboarding . 2024-01-03. 2024-01-03 . https://web.archive.org/web/20240103021537/https://forgottenwars.gonevis.com/general-terms-in-battleboarding/ . live .
  4. May 1997, Black Belt Magazine, Don Wilson Cover
  5. WIZARD Magazine Issue #133 (October 2002) ASIN B003AE0VE8
  6. Book: Cowsill, Alan. 2000s. DC Comics Year By Year A Visual Chronicle. . 2010 . 978-0-7566-6742-9 . 311 . [''JLA/Avengers''] was an event that...proved to be one of the biggest and best of the DC and Marvel crossovers, incorporating many of the two companies' greatest heroes and villains..
  7. Web site: 'Who Would Win?' is a wonderful vice that must be enjoyed responsibly. Polygon. Polo, Susana. March 21, 2022
  8. News: Wallenstein . Andrew . 2004-03-19 . TV Review: Discovery Channel's 'Animal Face-Off' . en . NPR.org . 2022-06-03.
  9. Web site: BOOB TUBE SCOOP: 'Deadliest Warrior' attacks . Sale, Andrew . 2009-04-24 . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20090411170026/http://www.thedailyaztec.com/tempo/boob-tube-scoop-deadliest-warrior-attacks-1.1646236 . April 11, 2009 .
  10. Web site: Super Power Beat Down Director Aaron Schoenke Interview . Den of Geek . 6 April 2021 . 24 July 2014.
  11. Web site: Does Batman always win? Batman vs Wolverine. Comic Vine. Katzman, Gregg. December 28, 2012
  12. Web site: StarDestroyer.net main site. December 12, 2023 . https://web.archive.org/web/20130206133511/https://stardestroyer.net/. February 6, 2013 . dead .
  13. https://forums.spacebattles.com/ Space Battles Forums
  14. Web site: The Ultimate Fighting/Review Site. Blogger. Dreager1.
  15. Web site: ‘Reach’ culture: The online malaise on media literacy. The Michigan Daily. Johri, Saarthak. September 28, 2022
  16. Web site: One Piece: Why Power Scaling Ruins The Experience. Game Rant. Ahmad, Suzail. October 18, 2022
  17. News: Copy, paste, animate. Rempel. Shauna. August 26, 2006. The Toronto Star. October 1, 2010.
  18. Web site: Mark Grayson vs the world: Can invincible really topple Thanos & Superman?. Desi Martini. Editorial. October 20, 2023
  19. https://www.buzzfeed.com/au/tag/who-would-win-in-a-fight Buzzfeed: Who Would Win In A Fight
  20. Alexandros, Martin Hati. "The Everyday Life of a Cyprus Video Game Developer". The Cyprus Chronicler. October 18, 2023
  21. Web site: The Everyday Life of a Cyprus Video Game Developer . November 21, 2023 . https://web.archive.org/web/20231018104932/https://www.scoop.it/topic/martin-hati-alexandros/p/4147902550/2023/10/18/the-everyday-life-of-a-cyprus-video-game-developer. October 18, 2023 . dead .