White Pony Explained

White Pony
Type:studio
Artist:Deftones
Cover:Deftones - White Pony-greycoverart.jpg
Alt:A grey background with an animated white pony pictured in a running motion positioned in the bottom right.
Caption:Original CD release cover art
Released:June 20, 2000
Recorded:August–December 1999
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Length:48:52
Label:Maverick
Producer:
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White Pony is the third studio album by the American alternative metal band Deftones, released on June 20, 2000, through Maverick Records. It was produced by Terry Date, who produced the band's first two albums, Adrenaline (1995) and Around the Fur (1997). Recording sessions took place between August and December 1999 at Larrabee Sound Studios in West Hollywood and The Plant Recording Studios in Sausalito, California.

The album marked a significant growth in the band's sound, incorporating influences from post-hardcore, trip hop, shoegaze, progressive rock, and post-rock into the alternative metal sound which they had become known for.[1] White Pony was also the first recording to feature Frank Delgado as a full-time member of the band on turntables and synthesizer; Delgado had previously worked with the band as a featured guest on their first two albums, producing sound effects on some songs. It was also the first Deftones album on which Chino Moreno began to contribute rhythm guitar parts.

Upon its release and retrospectively, the album was met with critical acclaim, and is regarded by fans and critics alike as one of the band's most mature outings at that point.[2] [3] [4] [5] The album includes two successful singles ("Change (In the House of Flies)" and "Back to School (Mini Maggit)"), the promotional single "Digital Bath", as well as the 2001 Grammy Award-winning track for Best Metal Performance, "Elite". The album received a 20th anniversary reissue, packaged with Black Stallion, a companion remix album of White Pony, in December 2020.[6] [7]

Background and recording

After a break from touring, the band spent four months in the studio writing and recording White Pony with the producer Terry Date, the longest amount of time they had dedicated to an album thus far.[8] The singer Chino Moreno explained that the majority of this time was spent trying to write songs, and that the writing of "Change (In the House of Flies)" was the turning point where the band began working as a unit.

Despite being pressured to release the album sooner, the band decided to take their time making the album. The bassist Chi Cheng explained, "We didn't feel like we had anything to lose, so we made the record we wanted to make." Moreno did not have an overall lyrical theme in mind, but made a conscious decision to bring an element of fantasy into his lyrics, explaining, "I basically didn't sing about myself on this record. I made up a lot of story lines and some dialogue, even. I took myself completely out of it and wrote about other things. Once I did that I was able to sing about anything I wanted to, I could be a lot more general. There's a lot of stuff on this record that people are going to question me about, and I can just remove myself from it. It's not me. I'm writing a story here." Moreno later claimed in a 2020 interview that his decision to play rhythm guitar on the album caused tensions to escalate with the guitarist Stephen Carpenter during the writing process. Despite the tensions, Moreno and Carpenter found themselves on friendlier terms and found a cohesive songwriting process for most of the album's tracks, with Moreno claiming, "Initially, I don't think the idea was that I was going to actually play on the record, even. Then I remember Stephen specifically saying, 'Dude, if you're going to play it in practice, then you're going to play on the record!' and I was like, 'Oh, okay… If that's cool with you!' I don't think he was too happy about it, to be honest, then [...] I do remember us both smiling at each other when we were sitting listening to the track being made, and the fusing of both our guitars, the sound of it, the way that Terry [Date] produced it."[9]

Although the band initially did not intend to include guest musicians on the album, it features additional vocals by the Tool and A Perfect Circle singer Maynard James Keenan on "Passenger" and Rodleen Getsic (simply credited as Rodleen) on "Knife Prty". "Rx Queen" also features vocal contributions from the Stone Temple Pilots singer Scott Weiland, though he is uncredited. Weiland brought Moreno to his studio for collaboration, where he would sing along and suggest vocal harmonies; the result was left in the final version of the song, and credit for Weiland's part was never discussed by either party.

Composition

Stylistically, White Pony combines the band's standard alternative metal sound,[10] [11] influenced by bands such as Tool, Faith No More, Nine Inch Nails, and Pink Floyd, with the layered atmospherics of the Cure, specifically their Pornography era.[12] It has also been categorized as an art rock and nu metal album,[13] though several critics also acknowledge that the record moved beyond the latter label.[14] [15] [16] Metal Hammer likened the album to a metal version of Radiohead's critically acclaimed OK Computer (1997).[17] Moreno discussed the lyrics to the original opener for the album, "Feiticeira": "The name Feiticeira is some Portuguese name that I read in a magazine and just liked. It's based on the scenario of being taken captive. It's completely fictional. I want that people who listen to it feel like they are the ones in the situation. Because of that I sing it in first person. It's up to people to figure out if i'm having fun (with them) or not, even though it sounds a bit eerie".

"Elite" is more straightforward and heavy and lacks typical Deftones dynamics, containing industrial rock influences.[18] Moreno said that the song "is laughing at everybody trying to become what they already are. If you want to be one of the elite, you are". Moreno considers "Rx Queen" "the most futuristic song in the album". About "Street Carp", Moreno said: "It's a classic Deftones song, with a rolling riff and some really interesting chords in the chorus. The vocals are kinda crazy - I'm singing out loud over the top of the music, like (the Smiths singer) Morrissey or something, a cool contrast". Although the song was not released as a single, a promo video was made for it.[19] Moreno stated that he wrote the lyrics to "Teenager" when he was 15 after a first date and that it was originally a Team Sleep song.

Moreno said about "Knife Prty", "It's a seductive song with a lot of violent imagery. People don't tend to like sex mixed with violence. The mid section has amazing vocals from a girl called Rodleen who worked next door to our studio". "Passenger" features a guitar intro and vocal interplay between Maynard James Keenan and Moreno alongside piano and keyboard lines, leading to heavy guitar that introduces the choruses.

"Change (In the House of Flies)" was the album's lead single, and became a radio hit. Moreno compared it to earlier single "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)", considering it "a beautiful metamorphosis". The closer, "Pink Maggit" is a "brooding, surreal epic" which ends with a recorded heartbeat.[20] [21] The title is a reference to a line in the Dr. Dooom song "No Chorus" on the album First Come, First Served which mocks Nas. Leading off the reissued version of the album, "Back to School (Mini Maggit)" is a reinterpretation of the album's closer with additional rap or hip hop influences. Moreno at first appreciated the support the band received from the label as a result of recording the track,[22] but later declared that he regretted the creation of the song and its placement on the album. "The Boy's Republic" is a song exclusive to the limited-edition releases of the album, with lyrics about someone desperately seeking redemption, and comes after "Pink Maggit," making it the final track on the limited edition.[23]

Album title

"White pony" is street slang for cocaine. However, there are other meanings for the album name, including a sexual reference, as explained by Moreno:

"There's a lot of different references for White Pony. One of them is a cocaine reference and there's a lot of stuff... have you ever heard stuff like in dream books that if you dream about a white pony, then you're having a sexual dream? There's a lot of stuff that kinda goes around it. And there's an old song [that goes], 'Ride the white horse.' That's obviously a drug-reference song."[24]

Release

Upon release, White Pony debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 below Britney Spears' Oops!... I Did It Again, selling 178,000 copies in its first week.[25]

White Pony is Deftones' highest-selling album to date, being certified gold on September 7, 2000, and eventually the album became their first platinum record certified by the RIAA on July 17, 2002.[26]

Five different editions of the album exist. On its release date, limited-edition numbered copies were released with solid red and black jewel cases. The two differently colored cases also featured different booklet inserts. Both limited-edition versions included "The Boy's Republic" but not "Back to School (Mini Maggit)."

The edition with a gray cover was released as the initial non-limited version of the album and did not include "The Boy's Republic". This, along with the red and black versions, were the properly sequenced version of the album as the band intended. The gray version was later superseded by the current white version, which added "Back to School (Mini Maggit)" as the first track. This was only added as a marketing strategy, a decision that Moreno stated that he was unhappy with.[27] [28] The original release was also pressed on clear red vinyl for a promotional run of about 1,000 copies.

In honor of the album's 20th anniversary, Deftones re-released White Pony on December 11, 2020, packaged with Black Stallion, a bonus remix album.[6] Black Stallion features the full track list of the original White Pony album in order with each song recreated by a different producer with an "electronic, beat-driven" approach. Deftones originally conceived of doing a remix album prior to the recording of White Pony and had reached out to DJ Shadow to remix the entire album himself.[7] Black Stallion includes remixes from DJ Shadow, Clams Casino, Robert Smith, Mike Shinoda and more; and was promoted with a music video for Purity Ring's remix of "Knife Prty".[6]

Reception

White Pony received widespread acclaim by critics, garnering an aggregate rating of 72 on Metacritic. Several reviewers praised Moreno's increasing lyrical sophistication and the group's sonic experimentation.

Billboard gave the album 4 out of 5 stars, though it cautioned that "the band's continuous inclination toward a bludgeoning experimental sonic attack and Moreno's violent, impressionistic lyrics made the album a tough pill to swallow for most listeners".[29] Similarly, BBC Music praised the album while opining: "[The fact] that such a progressive, risk-taking LP wasn't celebrated across the board for its gutsy reinventing of a band thought pigeonholed wasn't that surprising, though – this is a difficult album."[30] In a favorable review, Alternative Press noted the album's "art-rock explorations."[31] Publications such as Rolling Stone and Q were somewhat less enthusiastic. The former lamented that the album was overproduced to sound too much like their influencers, while the latter wondered if White Pony was "their most adventurous and assured album to date".[32]

In 2016, Jonathan Dick of NPR Music retrospectively praised the album as a watershed moment or turning point, not only in regards to the Deftones' sound but also, more generally, to heavy and experimental music in the new millennium, describing the album as signaling "not only a change for the band but a new trajectory for heavy and experimental music entering the 21st century". Dick especially noted the album's "shift into the heavy post-rock, shoegaze spectrum" and contended that, within the span of five years from the band's debut album to the release of White Pony, Deftones had distinguished itself as a band "whose sound no longer fit too comfortably under any genre-specific title".[1] Similarly, Mike Diver of Clash magazine asserted that White Pony "changed everything – not just for Deftones, but metal as a whole", noting the album's "distinct air of progressive rock" and its ability to weave electronics into aggressive yet reflective songs.[33] Pitchfork retrospectively noted that White Pony "transcended the dubious genre [of nu-metal] by fashioning a truly new form from post-hardcore, industrial, trip-hop, shoegaze, ambient electronics, and synth-pop."

Accolades

Alternative Press ranked White Pony as the second best album of 2000, and in their September 2010 issue, placed it in their list of the "Top 10 Most Influential Albums of 2000". UK rock magazine Kerrang! named White Pony their third best album of the year behind Queens of the Stone Age's Rated R and At the Drive-In's Relationship of Command. In 2011, Complex Media Network's music website, Consequence of Sound, honored White Pony on a "List 'Em Carefully" installment dedicated to writer David Buchanan's top 13 metal records released between 2000 and 2010, noting that Deftones was one of several acts who "helped usher the popularity of complex structure meets MTV audience".[34] In 2017, Rolling Stone ranked White Pony as 66th on their list of 'The 100 Greatest Metal Albums of All Time.'[35] In 2019, The Guardian ranked it 29th on their list of 'The 100 best albums of the 21st century'.[36] In 2020, it was named one of the 20 best metal albums of 2000 by Metal Hammer magazine.[37]

The album's third track, "Elite", won the Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance in 2001.[38] The Deftones drummer Abe Cunningham commented on the awards night: "All the people were on the ground, on the floor, and we were up sort of in the balcony, we were like, 'We're not gonna win. Look where we're sitting.' Everybody else who was winning, they'd get up there quick and get back. So we were just watching it and the whole thing was rad, just seeing the (stuff) go down. And all of a sudden they called our name. We just jumped over this balcony down onto the floor and ran up there. It was pretty cool, man".[39]

The album won the 2000 Kerrang! Award for Album of the Year.[40]

At the 2001 California Music Awards, it won Outstanding Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Album.[41]

Track listing

Personnel

Personnel adapted from album liner notes, unless otherwise noted.[45] Deftones

Additional musicians

Other personnel

Technical personnel

Charts

Year-end charts

Chart (2000)Position
Canadian Albums (Nielsen SoundScan)[49] 174
US Billboard 200[50] 137

Singles

YearSongPeak
position
US Alt.
[51]
US Main.
[52]
UK
[53]
2000"Change (In the House of Flies)"3953
"Back to School (Mini Maggit)"273535

Further reading

External links

Notes and References

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  2. Book: Udo, Tommy . Brave Nu World . Sanctuary Publishing . 2002 . 112–123, 236 . 1-86074-415-X . registration .
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  4. Book: Bukszpan . Daniel . The Encyclopedia of Heavy Metal . 2003 . Barnes & Noble . 0-7607-4218-9 . 58 . The Deftones .
  5. Book: Christie, Ian . Sound of the Beast: The Complete Headbanging History of Heavy Metal . . 2003 . 0-380-81127-8 . 329 . Virtual Ozzy & Metal's Digital Rebound . https://archive.org/details/soundofbeastcomp0000chri/page/329 .
  6. Web site: Yoo. Noah. Deftones Announce White Pony Remix Album Black Stallion, Share Purity Ring Remix: Listen. Pitchfork. October 30, 2020. October 30, 2020.
  7. Exposito. Suzy. Deftones Announce Upcoming 'White Pony' Remix LP 'Black Stallion'. Rolling Stone. June 20, 2020. October 30, 2020.
  8. Web site: Knife fights. abductions. breakdowns.. August 5, 2013. www.deftonesworld.com. Vaziri. Aidin. August 2000. Alternative Press.
  9. Web site: Deftones' Chino Moreno reveals that Stephen Carpenter 'Wasn't too happy' about him playing guitar on White Pony. June 18, 2020 .
  10. Web site: Weingarten . Christopher R . How Deftones turned dark times into 'Diamond Eyes', most uplifting album yet . . June 3, 2023 . https://web.archive.org/web/20230327060126/https://www.revolvermag.com/music/how-deftones-turned-dark-times-diamond-eyes-most-uplifting-album-yet . March 27, 2023 . May 4, 2010 . ...the washed-out ebb and flow that made 2000's White Pony an alt-metal revelation..
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  21. Web site: Robb . Tavia . Thrash Poets . . August 15, 2023 . https://web.archive.org/web/20230815164425/https://www.miaminewtimes.com/music/thrash-poets-6354413 . August 15, 2023 . November 30, 2000 . live.
  22. Web site: Patashnik . Ben . Deftones - How 'White Pony' Almost Killed Us . . August 15, 2023 . https://web.archive.org/web/20101121102125/https://rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us . November 21, 2010 . November 15, 2010 . dead.
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  24. https://archive.today/20220731051104/https://www.deftonesworld.com/slamm-magazine-june-2000-chino-interviewed/ “Slamm Magazine” – June, 2000 // Chino Interviewed
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  26. Web site: RIAA: Certification Status: Deftones - White Pony. .
  27. http://www.thedeftones.com/whitepony.shtml
  28. Web site: Entertain Me: A Film About Deftones. .
  29. Deftones White Pony . . October 1, 2020 . https://web.archive.org/web/20010422024419/http://www.billboard.com:80/reviews/reviewdisplay.asp?ID=87538 . April 22, 2001 . June 24, 2000.
  30. Web site: Diver . Mike . Review of Deftones - White Pony . . October 1, 2020 . https://web.archive.org/web/20180215145455/http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/2vb6/ . February 15, 2018 . 2010.
  31. Web site: Deftones - White Pony . . October 1, 2020 . https://web.archive.org/web/20050305161424/http://www.altpress.com/sections/rotw/07-31-2000/index.asp . March 5, 2005 . July 31, 2000.
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  41. Web site: Green Day Dominates California Music Awards. April 29, 2001 .
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  44. Web site: iTunes - Music - White Pony by Deftones. iTunes Preview (Apple). April 9, 2015. Jeff Buckley would have been thrilled at how “Knife Party” expands the hard-rock notions of his Grace — the track’s bridge finds singer Chino Moreno pulling off a worthy tribute to Buckley’s falsetto —.
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