West derby (Romania) explained

West Derby
Other Names:UTA vs Poli
First Contested:
1948–49 Divizia A
(29 August 1948)
Most Wins:UTA Arad (33)
Mostrecent:
2019–20 Liga II
(20 October 2019)
Nextmeeting:
2019–20 Liga II
(25 April 2019)
Total:78

The West Derby (Romanian; Moldavian; Moldovan: Derbiul Vestului) is a match between the fierce rivals SSU Politehnica Timișoara and UTA Arad, the biggest and most popular football clubs in the western of Romania.

History

At first glance, the reasons for rivalry between Timișoara and Arad are multiple. At first sight, it is the rivalry between the cities, both with a rich economic and cultural activity. Then it would be the postwar period, when, in administratively terms, Arad destiny was decided by Timișoara. In football, the two cities dispute the status of pioneer in the Romanian football. All these aspects have contributed to today's enmity, between Poli and UTA. A decisive episode, however, was consumed in 1964.

The flame that lit irreversible the rivalry between Poli and UTA was the match from 16 May 1964 in Timișoara. Both teams were hungry for points and the pressure was greater on the shoulders of Timișoara players, who were in a tough situation, the bottom of the table. Over 25,000 spectators stormed the new stadium on May 16, a stadium that was not completely built.

On UTA's bench was Coloman Braun-Bogdan aka "Csibi", coach that a year before finished in 3rd place with Timișoara. After a quarrel with Remus Lazăr and Nelu Igna, it has been removed from the team and took over UTA. So it is understandable that the famous coach has to pay some "debts".

"Csibi not come alone, but with the referee Lulu Mihăilescu. They have scored a goal from offside, led us, and when we equalized at 3–3, Lereter scored, but the referee cancelled the goal. When people saw that, they triggered the scandal", remember, many years ago, Cicerone Manolache, one of the protagonists of that match. Then followed a bombing rocks on the lockers. The police intervened, but viewers could not be calmed so easy. Witnesses said that one of the police cars was overthrown by Druckers (Poli fans). The whole incident was left with arrests and expulsions for students who actively participated in the scandal.

Timișoara stadium was suspended, they disputed their last home matches in exile, at Reșița. At the end of that edition of the championship, Știința Timișoara relegated.[1]

In the last 20 years, both teams faced financial problems, so the meetings between them becoming rarer, but perhaps more explosive. Firstly FC Politehnica Timișoara, it was the one who had financial problems in the early 2000s. Then Timișoara recovered and returns in the first league through an alliance with AEK București, they became for a short period Politehnica AEK Timișoara. But 2000s did not have to be gentle with their great rival, UTA Arad, as well. They played mostly in the second league except the moment when promoted instead of Liberty Salonta, which promoted on the pitch, but sold its place. Then in the early 2010s, both teams arrived in the second league. Then in 2012 FC Politehnica Timișoara went bankrupt and it was followed by her biggest rival UTA Arad, two years later, in 2014.[2] [3] If at Arad the team started from Liga IV, being supported by everyone and holding the old team record and logo, at Timișoara things had to be more complicated. After the dissolution of FC Politehnica Timișoara in 2012, appeared 2 teams. ACS Poli Timișoara, former ACS Recaș which was moved from Recaș to Timișoara and inheriting the old team record, a team that is supported by local authorities. The second one is SSU Politehnica Timișoara, a team supported by the fans of Poli (Druckeria), who started its road from Liga V. UTA fans consider SSU Politehnica Timișoara as their real rival because it is supported by FC Politehnica Timișoara fans.

On 13 November 2016, UTA and Poli met again, for the first time in this new format. The match end draw but UTA Arad had possession and occasions. Even though UTA controlled the match from the beginning to end, Poli managed to score the opening goal. Later, UTA scored and the match ended 1-1.[4]

Statistics

CompetitionPlayedPolitehnica winsDrawsUTA winsPolitehnica goalsUTA goals
Divizia A / Liga I521516216578
Divizia B / Liga II25105103235
Cupa României100114
Total7825213398117

Meetings

All-known meetings:[5]

width=7%Date!Venuewidth=7%Home team!width=7%Score!width=7%Away Team!width=10%Goals (home)!width=10%Goals (away)!width=7%Competition
29 August 1948Francisc von NeumannITA Arad2–0Politehnica TimișoaraKarpinetz (7, 9)Divizia A
20 March 1949ȘtiințaCSU Timișoara0–0ITA Arad
4 June 1950Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad4–0CSU TimișoaraCapas (4), Mercea (44, 62), Boitoș (?)
29 October 1950ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara2–1Flamura Roșie AradMorja (25), Pall (44 o.g.)Reinhardt (75)
25 March 1951Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad2–2Știința Timișoara Dumitrescu (51), Pecsovszky (88)Boroș (46, 62)
26 August 1951ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 0–3Flamura Roșie AradBoitoș (30), Covaci (75), Mercea (76)
19 April 1953ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 0–0Flamura Roșie Arad
4 October 1953Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad2–0Știința Timișoara Mercea (16), Váczi (69)
21 October 1953ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 1–4Flamura Roșie AradCupa României
16 June 1954Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad1–1Știința Timișoara Don (26)Ciosescu (10)Divizia A
27 October 1954ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 4–0Flamura Roșie AradCiosescu (8, 15, 80), Cojereanu (71 pen.)
20 March 1955Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad1–0Știința Timișoara Ioanovici (72)
28 August 1955ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 1–4Flamura Roșie AradR. Lazăr (82)Capas (18), Birău (32), Pecsovszky (85, 87)
1 July 1956Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad1–2Știința Timișoara Boitoș (56)Dinulescu (40), Ciosescu (64)
11 November 1956ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 3–2Flamura Roșie AradCiosescu (3, 58), Gârleanu (85)Pecsovszky (10), Jurcă (15)
8 September 1957Francisc von NeumannFlamura Roșie Arad3–3Știința Timișoara Jurcă (23, 59), Mercea (24)Ciosescu (52, 67), Dușan (81 o.g.)
20 April 1958ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 2–2Flamura Roșie AradGârleanu (29), Cădariu (57)Matias (18), Țârlea I (20)
21 September 1958Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–1Știința Timișoara Igna (59)Zaharia (58)
29 March 1959ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 1–2UTA AradFilip (65 pen.)Țârlea I (12, 80)
13 October 1960ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 2–3UTA AradGârleanu (18), Manolache (56)Pecsovszky (2), Metskas (22), Tăucean (53)
23 April 1961Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–1Știința Timișoara Czako (8)Lereter (41)
3 September 1961ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 1–0UTA AradR. Lazăr (53)
1 April 1962Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–1Știința Timișoara Mir. Sasu (77)Lereter (50)
28 November 1962Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad3–2Știința Timișoara Leac (29), Chivu (40), Mir. Sasu (81)Bîtlan (14, 20)
21 April 1963ȘtiințaȘtiința Timișoara 1–1UTA AradMițaru (3)Mir. Sasu (30)
20 October 1963Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–1Știința Timișoara Tomeș (23), Țârlea I (55)Surdan (90)
17 May 19641 MaiȘtiința Timișoara 3–3UTA AradMițaru (28), Manolache (30), Lereter (75)Țârlea I (9), Tomeș (23, 76)
5 September 1965Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad0–0Știința Timișoara
10 April 19661 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 1–0UTA AradLereter (25)
9 November 1966Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad5–2Politehnica Timișoara Șchiopu (5, 19, 56), Tr. Popescu (14, 44)Mihăilă (61), Popanică (86)
28 May 19671 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 4–2UTA AradCotormani (54), Regep (67), Lereter (74 pen.), Mureșan (82)Jac (31), Țârlea I (89 pen.)
9 December 1973Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad3–0Politehnica Timișoara Kun (23), Brosovszky (42), Domide (87)
19 June 19741 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 1–3UTA AradBojin (16)Trandafilon (3, 69), Leac (71)
10 November 19741 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 0–0UTA Arad
18 May 1975Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–0Politehnica Timișoara
23 November 19751 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 3–0UTA AradAnghel (33), Dembrovschi (74), Petrescu (80)
9 June 1976Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–1Politehnica Timișoara Colnic (12), Brosovszky (29)Floareș (62)
10 October 19761 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 2–1UTA AradDembrovschi (11 pen.), Roșca (89)Nedelcu (63)
15 May 1977Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–1Politehnica Timișoara Leac (29), Brosovszky (84)Lața (75)
12 October 19771 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 1–1UTA AradLața (54 pen.)Brosovszky (20)
23 April 1978Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–1Politehnica Timișoara
28 October 1978Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–0Politehnica Timișoara Brosovszky (26)
25 April 19791 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 1–0UTA AradCotec (15)
14 October 19811 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 0–0UTA Arad
17 April 1982Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad0–0Politehnica Timișoara
18 September 1983Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–2Politehnica Timișoara Țârlea II (3)Anghel (53), Vlătănescu (63)Divizia B
1 April 19841 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 3–0UTA AradGiuchici (32, 35), Ad. Manea (78)
16 November 19861 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 4–2UTA AradVușcan (7), Bolba (28, 55), Sabou (50)Lucaci (11, 22)
7 June 1987Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad0–2Politehnica Timișoara Bobaru (25), Bolba (70)
11 November 19881 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 3–1UTA AradIonuț (8), Vlaicu (59), Varga (87)Mulțescu (42)
12 March 1989Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–3Politehnica Timișoara Petrescu (1, 74)Trăistaru (30), Oloșutean (35), Varga (64)
11 September 1993Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–0Politehnica Timișoara A. Ungur (37)Divizia A
27 February 19941 MaiPolitehnica Timișoara 1–0UTA AradVarga (83 pen.)
6 September 1997Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–3Politehnica Timișoara Volocaru (90)Stoican (14), Ibrahim (75), Călin (81)Divizia B
28 March 1998Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara 1–1UTA AradMar. Sasu (52)Ad. Baciu (50)
5 September 1998Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–1Politehnica Timișoara Cl. Drăgan (61)Stoican (4)
7 April 1999Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara 1–2UTA AradCodrea (12)Mariș (25), Cl. Drăgan (46)
27 October 1999Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad1–0Politehnica Timișoara Cr. Todea (66)
3 May 2000Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara 2–0UTA AradStupar (45), Naidin (90)
18 October 2000Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara 0–1UTA AradCr. Todea (52)
12 May 2001Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad0–0Politehnica Timișoara
13 October 2001Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara 1–2UTA AradBenga (86)Miculescu (38, 43)
11 May 2002Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad7–0Politehnica Timișoara Drida (4), Fritea (11), Miculescu (12, 43), Ciubăncan (48), Ianu (51, 61)
5 October 2002Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara 3–4UTA AradM. Oprea (1, 68), R. Stancu (39)Constantinovici (51, o.g.), N'Jock (62), Manta (77), Chițescu (90+2)Divizia A
16 April 2003Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad0–1Politehnica TimișoaraM. Oprea (30)
18 November 2006Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara2–0UTA AradPleșan (25), Mansour (74)Liga I
18 May 2007Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–1Politehnica TimișoaraHora (27), Edson (55)Bucur (50)
1 September 2007Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad2–3Politehnica TimișoaraCr. Todea (26), Bălțoi (49)Bucur (4, 12, 89)
15 March 2008Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara2–0UTA AradArm. Karamyan (23), Abiodun (62)
30 September 2011Francisc von NeumannUTA Arad0–0Politehnica TimișoaraLiga II
20 April 2012Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara0–1UTA AradGalanis (11)
13 November 2016MotorulUTA Arad1–1Politehnica TimișoaraAndor (88)Blănaru (70)
21 May 2017Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara0–3UTA AradCurtuiuș (30), Gligor (33), Piccioni (90+2)
15 October 2017Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara2–1UTA AradPredescu (3), Bilia (62)Asani (9)
24 April 2018Otto GreffnerUTA Arad3–0 (forfait)Politehnica Timișoara
27 October 2018Dan PăltinișanuPolitehnica Timișoara1–3 UTA AradBozian (67 pen.)Janos (14, 40), Rus (87)
4 May 2019MotorulUTA Arad0–2 Politehnica TimișoaraIgnea (10), Al. Manea (71)
21 October 2019MotorulUTA Arad1–0 Politehnica TimișoaraRus (49)

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External links

Notes and References

  1. Web site: povestea-meciului-care-a-schimbat-totul-cum-a-aparut-rivalitatea-dintre-arad-si-timisoara. voceatimisului.ro. 14 November 2016.
  2. Web site: Insolvenţa fostei echipe Poli Timişoara, de doi ani tot în stadiu incipient | TIMPOLIS | Stiri News Ziar Timișoara. timpolis.ro. 14 November 2016.
  3. Web site: UTA Bătrâna Doamnă se transformă în FC UTA Arad! – Special Arad. specialarad.ro. 14 November 2016.
  4. Web site: Derby înnămolit! SSU Poli era să dea lovitura la Arad, cu UTA, însă s-a întors la Timişoara cu un punct şi cu mult noroi. Reacţiile antrenorilor celor două mari rivale | Liga 2. liga2.prosport.ro. 14 November 2016.
  5. Web site: Șapte decenii în cifre! Statistica derby-urilor Poli – UTA, disputate la Timișoara. Druckeria.ro. Romanian . Seven decades in numbers! Poli - UTA derby statistics, played in Timișoara. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Istoria unui derby autentic: UTA – Poli, în imagini. Druckeria.ro. Romanian . The history of an authentic derby: UTA – Poli, in pictures. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: De 70 de ani avem UTA – Poli! Rezultatele, marcatorii și statistica derby-urilor găzduite de arădeni. Druckeria.ro. Romanian . For 70 years we have had UTA - Poli! The results, scorers and statistics of the derbies hosted by the people of Arad. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: De 70 de ani avem UTA – Poli! Rezultatele, marcatorii și statistica derby-urilor găzduite de arădeni. Sspolitehnica.ro. Romanian . For 70 years we have had UTA - Poli! The results, scorers and statistics of the derbies hosted by the people of Arad. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Soccerway. UTA Arad VS. SSU Poli Timișoara 1-1 / 13 November 2016. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Soccerway. SSU Poli Timișoara VS. UTA Arad 2-1 / 15 October 2017. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Soccerway. UTA Arad VS. SSU Poli Timișoara 3-0 / 24 April 2018. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Soccerway. SSU Poli Timișoara VS. UTA Arad 1-3 / 27 October 2018. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Soccerway. UTA Arad VS. SSU Poli Timișoara 0-2 / 4 May 2019. 30 April 2023.
    Web site: Soccerway. UTA Arad VS. SSU Poli Timișoara 1-0 / 20 October 2019. 30 April 2023.
  6. Web site: Fotbalul, marele învins la derby-ul Vestului! Meciul dintre UTA şi SSU Poli s-a jucat fără galerii şi s-a terminat prematur, cu bănăţenii ieşind de pe teren. Ce riscă timişorenii. Soccer, the biggest looser of the West derby! The match between UTA and SSU Poli played without ultras groups and ended prematurely, with the players from Banat coming out of the field. What do the club from Timișoara risk?. liga2.prosport.ro. 24 April 2018.