South London derby explained

South London derby
Other Names:South East London derby
City Or Region:South London, England
First Contested:Millwall 0–3 Crystal Palace
(PFA Charity Fund, 31 October 1910)
Teams Involved:Bromley
Charlton Athletic
Crystal Palace
Millwall
AFC Wimbledon
Sutton United
Mostrecent:
(League Two, 17 August 2024)
Nextmeeting:
(League Two, 1 March 2025)
Most Wins:Millwall (96)
Total:333
Series:Millwall: W96 D73 L71
Crystal Palace: W80 D52 L69
Charlton Athletic: W50 D52 L83
AFC Wimbledon: W9 D6 L14
Bromley: W1 D0 L0
Sutton United: W5 D1 L3
Largestvictory:Millwall 6–0 Charlton Athletic
(Second Division, 3 January 1931)

The South London derby is the name given to a football derby contested by any two of Bromley, Charlton Athletic, Crystal Palace, Millwall, and AFC Wimbledon, the five professional Football Association clubs that play in the Football League in South London, England.[1] A sixth club, Sutton United, is also located in South London but currently do not compete in the Football League. It is sometimes more specifically called the South East London derby when played between Charlton and Millwall.[2] The close geographical proximity of all the teams contributes significantly to the rivalries.

Charlton and Millwall are located in South East London, with Millwall's The Den based in New Cross and Charlton's The Valley situated in Greenwich, being less than four miles apart. Crystal Palace are based further south in the suburb of Selhurst, their stadium Selhurst Park being six miles from The Den and eight from The Valley. AFC Wimbledon are located at Plough Lane in Merton, South West London, which is five miles west of Selhurst Park, eight from The Den, and seven and a half from The Valley. Bromley's Hayes Lane in Bromley is over nine miles east from Plough Lane, four and half miles east of Selhurst Park, and around seven miles south of The Den and the Valley.

According to a 2013 fan survey on football rivalries, Charlton considers their main rival to be Crystal Palace, with Millwall being their second biggest rival. Millwall's main rivalry is with East London club West Ham United, with Palace placed second and Charlton third. Crystal Palace fans consider their main rival to be Brighton, with Millwall second and Charlton third. AFC Wimbledon's main rivalry is with Milton Keynes Dons, with their fans considering Crawley Town as their second biggest rival.

Millwall was founded in 1885, with Palace and Charlton both founded twenty-years later in 1905. The earliest fixture between two of the teams was in 1906 when Crystal Palace and Millwall first met in the Southern League. The two teams have contested the most games, over 130 derbies. Palace and Millwall both entered the Football League in the 1920–21 season. Charlton joined the next year in the 1921–22 season, playing in the same division as Palace and Millwall for the first time. Wimbledon were founded in 1889 and spent the majority of their history as an amateur club, until joining the Football League in the 1977–78 season. In 2003 Wimbledon were relocated to Milton Keynes as part of a franchise takeover and became Milton Keynes Dons. During this period of decline, the club reformed as a phoenix club in 2002, founded by supporters against the move, renaming itself AFC Wimbledon, as it won a rapid succession of non-League promotions to gain Football League status nine years later. AFC Wimbledon played their first derby in 2009, an FA Cup game against Millwall.

Sutton United were founded in 1898 but only played their first competitive derby in 2017, an FA Cup game against AFC Wimbeldon. Sutton gained promotion into the English Football League for the first time in the 2020–21 season. They competed in League Two for three seasons, playing seven derbies against Wimbledon and Charlton, before being relegated back to the National League in 2024. Bromley were founded in 1892 and played their entire history in non-league, until winning promotion from the National League in the Play-off Final in 2024.

Millwall hold a winning record over Charlton, Palace, and Wimbledon. Wimbledon and Crystal Palace both have winning records against Charlton but have yet to play a game against each other. Charlton hold a losing record against all three. Bromley have yet to play a South London derby in the Football League. As of the 2024–25 season, Crystal Palace play in the Premier League, Millwall play in the Championship, Charlton play in League One, and Bromley and AFC Wimbledon play in League Two.

History

Early rivalries

Millwall were founded in 1885, some 20 years before Charlton Athletic and Crystal Palace, who were both founded in 1905.[3] Soon after Crystal Palace were formed, they joined the Southern Football League, of which Millwall were founding members. The two teams played against each other for ten seasons in this league. The first contested competitive game between the sides was played on 17 November 1906, with Palace winning 3–0 although the fixture was not yet a South London derby – Millwall were based in East London until 1910. Up until that point the most successful team based in South London was Woolwich Arsenal, who were the first Southern member elected to the Football League in 1893.

Charlton Athletic's early years were somewhat hindered by the presence of Woolwich Arsenal, who were the closest team in locality and were well supported. Charlton spent the first years of their history playing in non-professional leagues and did not play either Palace or Millwall.[4] Eventually, Woolwich Arsenal moved to North London, losing the 'Woolwich' from their name, in 1913.[5] The same year Charlton adopted senior status. They became a professional team in 1920, joining the Southern League.[4] Both Millwall and Crystal Palace joined the Football League in the 1920–21 season,[3] playing in the Third Division, while Charlton Athletic joined the year after for the 1921–22 season,[4] finally competing at the same level as both their South London neighbours. Wimbledon became a Football League club five decades later in the 1977–78 season, playing their first South London derby against Millwall in 1980.

Four in the same league

There have been two occasions where four of the current five South London teams have played in the same league together. In the 1985–86 season, Charlton Athletic, Crystal Palace, Millwall and Wimbledon all competed in the Second Division. Charlton finished 2nd and Wimbledon 3rd, both being automatically promoted. Palace finished 5th and Millwall 9th. The 1989–90 season signifies the only time all four teams competed in the First Division together, the top tier of English football. Wimbledon finished the season 8th, Palace 15th and Charlton and Millwall were relegated, finishing 19th and 20th respectively.

Ground sharing

During World War II Millwall's ground The Den was severely damaged by a German bomb and a fire destroyed a stand a few days later. For a brief time the club was invited by their neighbours to play their games at The Valley and Selhurst Park. In 1984 Charlton went into administration. The club were forced to leave The Valley just after the start of the 1985–86 season after its safety was criticised by league officials. The club began a groundshare with Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park, which lasted for six years until 1991. After another year groundsharing at West Ham United's Upton Park, Charlton moved back into The Valley in 1992. Wimbledon groundshared at Selhurst Park from 1991 until their relocation to Milton Keynes in 2003. The campaign of Wimbledon's fans against the relocation led to the formation of AFC Wimbledon.

Notable matches

The first meeting between any of the three original teams saw Palace, who were only formed a year prior, secure a comfortable victory over the visitors from East London. It was a Southern League match watched by 6,000 fans at the Crystal Palace National Sports Centre.[6] [7]

This was the first game between the teams since Millwall moved to South London (in 1910), making this the first true South London derby. 3,000 supporters watched a Palace victory at The Den in a London PFA Charity Fund game. The match against their new neighbours was Millwall's second game at their new ground.[8]

First derby contested in The Football League. Palace won the Third Division game with a second half goal in front of 20,000 fans. Palace also won the reverse fixture 3–2 which was held only a week later on 22 January 1921, to complete the first South London Football League double and continue their early dominance of Millwall.[9]

This London PFA Charity Fund fixture was the first contest between the two teams, which Millwall won 2–0 in front of 10,000 supporters at The Den.[10]

On New Year's Eve of 1921 the teams met for their first League match, which Charlton won 1–0 at The Den. This was Charlton's first season as a Football League club and they completed a rare double over Millwall, winning the return fixture at The Valley 2–1.[10]

The first competitive game played between the teams took place in the Third Division (south), and ended with a 1–1 draw at The Valley.

This Second Division game between the sides remains the widest winning margin between any of the clubs. Millwall led 1–0 at half-time and scored five more times in the second half, with goals from Harold Wadsworth (2), Joe Readman (2), Andrew Swallow and Jack Landells.[11]

Wimbledon's first South London Derby was away at Millwall in the Third Division. The game ended in a draw in front of a crowd of 5,364. This was the Wombles third season as a Football League club, they finished bottom of the table and were relegated.

The last South London derby and last ever game at Plough Lane. Wimbledon were forced to move at the end of the season due to a new FA rule requiring all-seater stadiums.[12] They started ground-sharing with Palace at Selhurst Park the following season. Palace won the game with a hat-trick by Ian Wright in the second half. Palace finished 3rd and Wimbledon 7th in the 1990–91 First Division.

Crystal Palace and Charlton met in the 1996 First Division play-off semi-final, after they finished third and sixth in the league respectively. Palace won the first leg at The Valley 2–1, and 1–0 in the second leg three days later. Palace went on to lose the play-off final to Leicester City 1–2 at Wembley.

A crowd of just 3,043 at the National Hockey Stadium in Milton Keynes saw Wimbledon's last game against South London opponents before they were renamed as MK Dons. A goal in the first half from Tim Cahill was enough to seal a win for Millwall against a Wimbledon side that finished bottom of the First Division and were relegated.

Palace led 2–1 with seven minutes left to play, before Charlton defender Jonathan Fortune scored an equaliser in the final game of the season, relegating Palace from the Premier League. Had Palace held on to win, they would have finished above West Brom and avoided relegation, but instead became the first club to be relegated from the top-flight of English football four times. The 2004–05 season was the only time Charlton and Palace played in the Premier League together.

AFC Wimbledon's first competitive South London derby was a match against Millwall at The Den in the first round of the FA Cup. Kenny Jackett's League One side won 4–1 against the Conference National side.

The first meeting of the sides since the last meeting back on 9 March 1996 ended in the highest-scoring game between the teams. Millwall went 2–0 up through two Steve Morison goals but Charlton converted two penalties through Deon Burton. Millwall's Jimmy Abdou was sent off early in the second half and The Lions went twice behind to the home team but Danny Schofield scored a last-minute equaliser.[13] Both teams wore special kits for the match in honour of murdered local teenagers and supporters Jimmy Mizen and Rob Knox. The logos of both clubs' shirt sponsors were replaced by the text, "Street violence ruins lives".[14]

AFC Wimbledon's first win in a south London derby. Also their first derby in the Football League, with their two previous derbies against Millwall being losses in cup competitions. Wimbledon came from a goal down to win, with a Tyrone Barnett goal in the 85th minute.

First South East London derby League game to be played with no fans present and in the summer. The game was re-arranged from 4 April due to the Coronavirus pandemic. The game was won in the 81st minute with a goal by Jake Cooper.[15]

AFC Wimbledon's first south London derby at their new Plough Lane ground. No fans were present due to the Coronavirus pandemic. Charlton led twice through goals from Jayden Stockley and Diallang Jaiyesimi. A brace from Ryan Longman made sure Wimbledon earned a point in their battle against relegation, and denting Charlton's play-off push. Wimbledon were 23rd and Charlton 6th in the table at the end of the game.

First competitive South West London derby for Sutton United was an FA Cup Third round match against AFC Wimbledon at Gander Green Lane. The game ended in a goalless draw, with Sutton winning the replay 3–1.

Sutton United's first ever South West London derby in a league game was an away win at Plough Lane, with captain Craig Eastmond scoring the only goal of the game in the 30th minute, securing Sutton's first away win of the season.

Cray Valley Paper Mills are a non-league team, playing in the Isthmian League, the eighth tier of the football league. Their first ever competitive South London derby was a game against Charlton in the First round of the FA Cup. Both teams play in Greenwich, making it a South East London derby. The game ended in a shock 1–1 draw at the Valley. In the replay at the Badgers Sports Ground in Eltham, Charlton won 6–1.

Bromley's first ever South London derby was a First Round League Cup game against Wimbledon. Levi Amantchi gave Bromley the lead, but goals from Josh Kelly and Joe Pigott knocked Bromley out.

Bromley's first ever home game in the Football League was against their South London rivals Wimbledon. Goals from Michael Cheek and Corey Whitely gave them their first ever home win in the League and first South London derby win at Hayes Lane.

Bromley v AFC Wimbledon

By competition

CompetitionPlayedBromley wins Drawn AFC Wimbledon wins Bromley goals AFC Wimbledon goals
Football League1 1 0 0 2 0
1 0 0 1 1 2
Total[16] 2 1 0 1 3 2

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
13 August 2024 1–2 3,677 First ever competitive meeting, First round.
17 August 2024 2–0 ? First ever South London derby win for Bromley. First league meeting.
1 March 2025 TBD

Charlton Athletic v AFC Wimbledon

Charlton and AFC Wimbledon first met in 2016, after Wimbledon were promoted via the League Two playoffs and Charlton were relegated from the Championship. Wimbledon won their first ever meeting at The Valley 2–1. Charlton won only one of their first six meetings, with Wimbledon knocking Charlton out of the FA Cup in 2017 and Football League Trophy on penalties in 2018. Charlton completed the double over their local rivals in the 2018–19 season. Charlton hold their only superior record (in the league) in South London derbies, with Wimbledon dominating cup competitions, having won all four cup games.

By competition

CompetitionPlayedCharlton wins Drawn AFC Wimbledon wins Charlton goals AFC Wimbledon goals
Football League10 5 3 2 18 12
FA Cup1 0 0 1 1 3
1 0 0 1 0 1
Football League Trophy2 0 0 2 3 4
Total[17] 14 5 3 6 22 20

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
17 September 2016 1–2 The Valley11,927 First ever league meeting, first Wimbledon win in a South London derby.
11 February 2017 1–1 Draw4,595
28 October 2017 1–0 The Valley12,575 First South London derby win in 15 games (since a victory against Palace in 2009).
3 December 2017 3–1 3,270 Second round.
12 April 2018 1–0 4,457
4 September 2018 2–2 The Valley1,244 Group stage, Wimbledon won 4–2 on penalties.
15 December 2018 2–0 The Valley10,691
23 February 2019 1–2 4,532 League double (1st for Charlton)
1 September 2020 2–1 0 Group stage. Played behind closed doors due to Coronavirus pandemic, and at temporary venue pending completion of Plough Lane.
12 December 2020 5–2 The Valley2,000 Restricted admittance due to UK COVID-19 regulations.
20 March 2021 2–2 Draw 0 First South London derby at Wimbledon's new ground. No fans present due to Coronavirus pandemic.
10 August 2021 0–1 3,372 First round.
5 February 2022 3–2 CharltonThe Valley22,486
5 April 2022 1–1 DrawPlough Lane8,184 First derby at the new Plough Lane with fans present.

Charlton Athletic v Crystal Palace

Charlton and Crystal Palace first met in 1925 in the Third Division (South), with the match ending in a 1–1 draw. Palace dominated their first 20 meetings, winning 13, and losing only four. Palace have completed the league double over Charlton six times, in 1926–27, 1927–28, 1964–65, 1968–69, 1989–90, and 2012–13. Charlton have done it twice, in 1999–2000 and 2007–08. Palace's longest unbeaten run in the fixture is nine games between 1993 and 1996, where they won six and drew three, including knocking their rivals out of the 1996 First Division Play-offs. Charlton's best unbeaten run is four games (three wins and a draw) twice, between 1982–83 and 2004–08.

By competition

CompetitionPlayedCharlton winsDrawnPalace winsCharlton goalsPalace goals
Football League56 17 13 26 55 78
FA Cup2 1 1 0 2 0
League Cup6 0 1 5 5 13
Anglo-Italian Cup1 1 0 0 4 1
Full Members Cup1 0 0 1 0 2
Football League play-offs2 0 0 2 1 3
Total[18] 68 19 15 34 67 97

This table only includes competitive first team games, excluding all pre-season games, friendlies, abandoned matches, testimonials and games played during World War I & II.

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
14 November 1925 1–1 DrawFirst competitive game.
27 March 1926 4–1 First Palace win.
4 September 1926 1–2 First Palace away win.
22 January 1927 2–1 League double (1st for Crystal Palace)
5 November 1927 5–0 Biggest winning margin for Palace.
17 March 1928 0–4 League double (2nd for Crystal Palace)
20 October 1928 0–2 First Charlton win (and Charlton away win)
2 March 1929 1–3
23 September 1933 4–2
1 February 1934 1–0
6 October 1934 2–2 Draw
16 February 1935 1–2
15 September 1964 1–2 First game against each other in 29 years (longest period)
30 September 1964 3–1 League double (3rd for Crystal Palace)
2 October 1965 2–0
26 March 1966 1–0 Second Division
10 September 1966 1–1 Draw
14 January 1967 1–0
9 September 1967 3–0
5 March 1968 0–1 League double (4th for Crystal Palace)
31 August 1968 3–3 Draw
4 January 1969 0–0 DrawThird round.
8 January 1969 0–2 CharltonThird round replay
22 March 1969 1–1 Draw
30 November 1974 2–1
17 January 1975 1–0
29 October 1977 1–1 Draw
24 March 1978 1–0 Second Division
27 March 1979 1–1 Draw
17 April 1979 1–0
12 September 1981 2–0 14,227
6 February 1982 2–1 Second Division9,072
27 December 1982 1–1 Draw17,996
4 April 1983 2–1 Second Division7,836
27 December 1983 1–0 Second Division10,224
23 April 1984 2–0 7,818
26 December 1984 2–1 9,540
6 April 1985 1–1 Draw6,131
20 August 1985 1–2 First round, 1st leg
3 September 1985 1–1 Draw First round, 2nd leg. Palace win 3–1 on aggregate.
7 September 1985 3–1 Second Division6,637 Last game at The Valley between the sides until 1993.
11 January 1986 2–1 11,521
16 December 1989 1–2 Palace15,763First 'home' game against Palace since Charlton began groundsharing at Selhurst Park.
19 December 1989 2–0 Palace6,621Third round.
21 April 1990 2–0 Palace15,276League double (5th for Crystal Palace)
7 September 1993 4–1 3,868Qualifying round. First game at The Valley between the sides since Charlton returned in 1992.
21 September 1993 3–1 9,615 Second round, 1st leg.
26 September 1993 0–0 Draw7,947
5 October 1993 0–1 5,224Second round, 2nd leg. Palace win 4–1 on aggregate.
20 March 1994 2–0 14,408 Fifth game of the season between the teams (3 cup, 2 league)
26 August 1995 1–1 Draw14,092
4 February 1996 0–0 Draw13,535
12 May 1996 1–2 Football League play-offs14,618 Semi-final, 1st leg
15 May 1996 1–0 Football League play-offs22,880 Semi-final, 2nd leg. Palace win 3–1 on aggregate.
21 December 1996 1–0 17,401 Palace nine games unbeaten (longest streak)
8 March 1997 2–1 Charlton14,816
26 December 1999 2–1 Charlton20,043
25 March 2000 0–1 CharltonSelhurst Park22,577 League double (1st for Charlton). First Charlton win at Selhurst Park since 1969.
27 October 2004 1–2 19,030 Third round.
5 December 2004 0–1 20,705First Premier League meeting between the two sides.
15 May 2005 2–2 Draw26,870 Palace relegated
1 September 2007 0–1 Championship18,556
8 February 2008 2–0 Championship26,202League double (2nd for Charlton). Charlton seven league games unbeaten (best streak)
30 September 2008 1–0 Championship16,358
27 January 2009 1–0 Championship20,627
14 September 2012 0–1 Championship21,730
2 February 2013 2–1 Championship17,945 League double (6th for Crystal Palace)
23 September 2015 4–1 16,576 Third round, Dwight Gayle scored a 27-minute hat-trick.

Charlton Athletic v Millwall

The teams first met in 1921, with Charlton winning at The Den 1–0. They won the return fixture at The Valley 2–1, completing the first Football League double over their local rivals. Millwall hold the record for the longest unbeaten run between the teams at 14 games. Between 1922 and 1930, the Lions won eight and drew six. Charlton's longest unbeaten run against Millwall is six games, between 1934 and 1968 they won three and drew three. The longest period the clubs have gone without playing each other is 31 years (between the 1935–36 and 1965–66 seasons), due to being in different leagues. Millwall also have a run of 12 games unbeaten between 1979 and 1992, where they won six and drew six. Millwall have completed a League double over Charlton ten times (in 1923–24, 1924–25, 1931–32, 1932–33, 1968–69, 1970–71, 1971–72, 1988–89, 1992–93 and 2019–20) compared to Charlton's three (in 1921–22, 1934–35 and 1995–96). Millwall have the most wins in a row in the derby with five (twice). Charlton has won two games in a row (four times). The teams didn't play each other for 13 years, competing in different leagues between the 1996–97 and 2008–09 seasons. Millwall are currently on a twelve-game unbeaten streak against Charlton (their joint-second longest), with seven wins and five draws spanning 26 years (1996–2022). Many Millwall fans do not consider Charlton a serious rival due to the one-sided nature of the contest.[19] The Lions have won 37 (50%) of the 74 league fixtures between the teams spanning 101 years, with the Addicks only winning 11 games (14%).[20]

By competition

CompetitionPlayedCharlton winsDrawnMillwall winsCharlton goalsMillwall goals
Football League74 11 26 37 65 119
Anglo-Italian Cup2 1 1 0 4 3
Sub-total76 12 27 37 69 122
Kent FA Challenge Cup finals18 9 5 4 36 31
London Challenge Cup1 1 0 0 1 0
Football League Jubilee Fund2 1 1 0 2 1
London PFA Charity Fund5 2 1 2 7 5
Total[21] [22] 102 25 34 43 115 159

This table only includes competitive first-team games, excluding all pre-season games, friendlies, abandoned matches, testimonials and games played during the First and Second World Wars.

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
31 December 1921 0–1 25,000 First competitive game, first Charlton win.
14 January 1922 2–1 18,000 League double (1st for Charlton)
4 November 1922 1–1 DrawThe Den25,000
11 November 1922 0–2 18,000 First Millwall win.
22 September 1923 0–1 15,000
29 September 1923 1–0 14,000 League double (1st for Millwall)
10 April 1925 0–2 25,000
13 April 1925 1–0 12,000 League double (2nd for Millwall)
3 October 1925 1–1 Draw25,337
13 February 1926 1–4 22,000
25 September 1926 3–0 20,239
12 February 1927 1–1 Draw20,000
8 October 1927 1–1 Draw27,212
18 February 1928 5–0 25,498
5 October 1929 1–1 Draw32,218
8 February 1930 1–1 Draw35,000 Highest attendance, Millwall 14 games unbeaten (longest streak)
6 September 1930 2–0 22,000
3 January 1931 6–0 14,687 Largest winning margin in a South London derby.
10 October 1931 1–3 25,000
20 February 1932 1–0 17,381 League double (3rd for Millwall)
12 November 1932 2–1 13,908
25 March 1933 1–4 33,000 League double (4th for Millwall)
29 September 1934 3–1 25,725
9 February 1935 1–3 29,263 Football League double (2nd for Charlton)
27 August 1966 0–0 Draw20,364 First game in 31 years, longest period without meeting.
31 December 1966 0–0 Draw29,529
2 September 1967 0–0 Draw18,240
6 January 1968 1–0 24,092 Charlton six games unbeaten, their longest streak.
10 August 1968 3–4 27,504 First win in the fixture (and at The Valley) for 35 years.
1 March 1969 3–2 23,011 League double (5th for Millwall)
16 August 1969 1–1 Draw20,451
7 October 1969 2–2 Draw21,718
5 September 1970 1–3 15,867
27 March 1971 2–0 13,399 League double (6th for Millwall)
30 August 1971 2–1 18,588
25 April 1972 0–2 26,582 Derek Possee scores 8th goal against Charlton, League double (7th for Millwall)
27 December 1976 1–1 Draw20,914
8 April 1977 3–2 16,481
24 September 1977 1–1 Draw13,309
28 February 1978 0–2 15,671
28 October 1978 0–2 10,054 First win at The Den for 43 years.
10 March 1979 2–4 9,908
6 September 1980 2–0 6,895 Lowest league attendance recorded.
17 March 1981 0–0 Draw12,700
29 March 1986 2–2 Draw20,451
15 April 1986 3–3 Draw21,718 Charlton were groundsharing with Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park.
10 September 1988 0–3 13,735 First meeting between the teams in the top flight.
2 January 1989 1–0 17,025 League double (8th for Millwall)
22 August 1989 2–2 Draw14,806
8 December 1989 1–1 Draw11,017
22 September 1990 0–0 Draw10,970 Keith Stevens (Millwall) was sent-off.
10 April 1991 3–1 15,382 Sheringham scores a hat-trick, taking his tally to 5 goals in the derby.
26 February 1992 1–0 12,882 Millwall 12 games unbeaten (their joint-second longest streak)
7 March 1992 1–0 8,177 Charlton were groundsharing with West Ham at Upton Park.
2 September 1992 1–2 3,975 Lowest attendance recorded, first cup tie between the sides. 90th-minute winner by Alan Pardew.
18 October 1992 0–2 7,527 First and only Football League win at Upton Park for Millwall.
25 April 1993 1–0 10,159 Last derby at The Old Den, league double (9th for Millwall).
1 September 1993 2–2 Draw4,003 First game between the teams at The New Den.
11 September 1993 0–0 Draw8,413 First derby at The Valley since Charlton returned home. Alex Rae (Millwall) sent-off.
15 March 1994 2–1 13,320
1 January 1995 1–1 Draw10,655
8 April 1995 3–1 9,506
5 December 1995 0–2 11,350 Lee Bowyer (Charlton) and Keith Stevens (Millwall) were sent-off in the snow.
9 March 1996 2–0 12,204 League double (3rd for Charlton).
19 December 2009 4–4 Draw 19,105 Highest ever scoring game in the fixture. Jimmy Abdou (Millwall) was sent-off.
13 March 2010 4–0 17,632
1 December 2012 0–0 Draw 18,013
16 March 2013 0–2 18,514
13 September 2013 0–1 15,917
15 March 2014 0–0 Draw 16,102
22 November 2014 0–0 Draw 16,102
8 April 2015 2–1 15,917 Chris Solly (Charlton) was sent-off. 87th-minute winner by Jos Hooiveld.
21 December 2016 3–1 14,395 Morison scores his 5th and 6th goals against Charlton in the derby.
14 January 2017 0–0 Draw 15,315 Jorge Teixeira (Charlton) was sent-off.
9 November 2019 2–1 17,10991st-minute winner by Matt Smith.
3 July 2020 0–1 0 League double (10th for Millwall). Millwall 12 games unbeaten (their joint-second longest streak). Game was re-arranged from 4 April due to Coronavirus pandemic. Game was played behind closed doors.

Charlton Athletic v Sutton United

The sides first competitive game was in the EFL trophy at the Valley, in 2023.

By competition

CompetitionPlayedCharlton winsDrawnSutton winsCharlton goalsSutton goals
Football League Trophy1 1 0 0 3 0
Total[23] 1 1 0 0 3 0

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Crystal Palace v Millwall

The first meeting between the sides was in 1906 in the Southern League, when Millwall Athletic were still an East London side. Palace won the game 3–0 at the Crystal Palace National Sports Centre.[6] Millwall moved south of the river in 1910 and the first true South London derby between the teams was held on 31 October 1910. It was a London PFA Charity Fund game, which Palace won 3–0 and was just Millwall's second game at their new ground, The Den.[8] The first derby contested in The Football League was on 15 January 1921. Palace won the Third Division (south) game 1–0. They also won the reverse fixture which was held a week later; 3–2, to complete the first Football League double over their South London neighbours.[9] Palace have completed a Football League double over Millwall seven times (in 1920–21. 1949–50, 1963–64, 1968–69, 1977–78, 1963–64, 1986–87, 1989–90.) Millwall have completed a Football League double over Palace six times (in 1925–26, 1926–27, 1957–58, 1959–60, 2001–01, 2010–11.) Palace's longest unbeaten streak is seven games, they won six and drew one game against Millwall between 1986 and 1993. Millwall's longest unbeaten streak against Palace is 19 games, between 1950 and 1958 they won 11 and drew 8 games.

By competition

CompetitionPlayedPalace winsDrawnMillwall winsPalace goalsMillwall goals
Football League86 26 26 34 106 126
FA Cup11 3 4 4 13 17
Football League Trophy1 0 0 1 0 3
Anglo-Italian Cup1 1 0 0 3 0
Sub-total99 30 30 39 122 146
Southern Football League20 12 3 5 28 11
Western Football League2 0 0 2 3 5
London Challenge Cup1 1 0 0 4 3
London PFA Charity Fund3 1 0 2 5 4
Kent FA Challenge Cup finals1 0 1 0 1 1
Kent Senior Shield5 1 2 2 7 4
Southern Floodlight Cup2 1 1 0 4 3
Total[24] [25] 133 46 37 50 174 177

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
15 January 1921 0–1 20,000 First Football League game between the sides.
22 January 1921 3–2 18,000 League double (1st for Crystal Palace)
28 January 1922 0–0 Draw25,000 Second round.
1 February 1922 2–0 MillwallThe Den35,800 Second round replay.
29 August 1925 1–2 20,000 First South London derby held at Selhurst Park.
2 January 1926 1–0 The Den18,126 League double (1st for Millwall)
18 December 1926 1–0 The Den15,445
7 May 1927 1–6 15,000 Biggest winning margin for Millwall, league double (2nd for Millwall)
15 October 1927 0–4 25,000 Six wins in a row (longest streak in fixture)
25 February 1928 1–1 Draw27,736 Second round.
26 January 1929 0–0 Draw40,460 Fourth round, highest attendance in a South London derby.
30 January 1929 5–3 26,406 Highest-scoring game between the sides, Fourth round replay.
10 November 1934 1–1 Draw11,000
23 March 1935 3–2 The Den9,630
2 November 1935 5–0 20,000 Biggest winning margin for Crystal Palace.
18 April 1936 4–0 The Den14,498
5 December 1936 3–0 The Den19,063
14 April 1937 1–0 7,000
4 September 1937 2–2 Draw25,894
15 January 1938 0–0 Draw22,000
28 August 1948 1–1 Draw 30,500 First game in 10 years (longest period)
1 January 1949 1–0 The Den19,484
8 October 1949 2–3 30,005
25 February 1950 1–0 30,300 League double (2nd for Crystal Palace)
16 September 1950 1–0 29,768
25 November 1950 1–4 14,817 First round.
20 January 1951 1–1 Draw 23,354
1 September 1951 3–1 22,386
29 December 1951 1–1 Draw 20,752
6 September 1952 0–0 Draw 25,886
17 January 1953 0–1 24,924
5 September 1953 2–2 Draw 21,952
16 January 1954 2–3 16,106
30 October 1954 5–2 19,385
19 March 1955 1–1 Draw 13,645
3 September 1955 1–1 Draw 16,454
31 December 1955 2–2 Draw 12,248
2–2 Draw 16,112
5 January 1957 2–0 26,790 Third round.
19 January 1957 3–0 16,145
28 August 1957 0–1 22,680
2 September 1957 3–0 19,770 League double (3rd for Millwall)
4 October 1958 2–1 19,190 Millwall 19 games unbeaten (longest streak).
21 February 1959 4–0 15,365
28 October 1959 1–2 27,929
12 December 1959 1–0 17,136 League double (4th for Millwall)
31 March 1961 0–2 37,774 Highest ever attendance in the fourth tier of the Football League.[26]
3 April 1961 0–2 15,503
26 December 1962 3–0 20,411
1 April 1963 1–1 Draw 21,586
12 October 1963 2–1 25,056
22 February 1964 0–1 19,239League double (3rd for Crystal Palace)
15 October 1966 1–1 Draw 28,644
25 March 1967 1–2 30,845
18 November 1967 2–2 Draw Second Division30,304
13 April 1968 5–1 14,782
23 November 1968 0–2 Second Division27,913
19 March 1969 4–2 Second Division32,516League double (4th for Crystal Palace)
17 November 1973 1–1 Draw 30,054
13 April 1974 3–2 20,176
13 December 1975 1–1 Draw 14,920 Second round.
16 December 1975 2–1 18,284 Second round replay
20 December 1975 2–1 9,989
30 March 1976 0–0 Draw 38,075 Highest Football League attendance in the derby.
20 August 1977 0–3 Second Division15,246
2 January 1978 1–0 Second Division27,259League double (5th for Crystal Palace)
16 September 1978 0–3 Second Division11,653
20 January 1979 0–0 Draw Second Division23,142
21 August 1982 3–0 4,844 Group match, Millwall went on to win the trophy.
5 January 1985 1–1 Draw 11,125 Third round.
23 January 1985 1–2 10,735 Third round replay
21 September 1985 2–1 Second Division8,713
22 April 1986 3–2 5,643 Lowest Football League attendance in the derby.
4 October 1986 2–1 Second Division8,150
28 March 1987 0–1 Second Division6,285 League double (6th for Crystal Palace)
10 October 1987 1–0 Second Division10,678
12 March 1988 1–1 Draw Second Division12,815
21 October 1989 4–3 First Division18,920First game between the sides in the top tier.
31 March 1990 1–2 First Division13,332 League double (7th for Crystal Palace)
14 September 1993 3–0 2,712 Lowest attendance, seven games unbeaten for Palace (longest streak)
1 January 1994 3–0 Division One16,779 First game at The New Den, first win for Millwall in 8 years.
9 April 1994 1–0 Division One23,142
22 October 1995 1–2 Division One14,338 First win at Selhurst Park for 10 years (28 years in the league).
30 March 1996 1–4 Division One13,214
8 September 2001 1–3 Division One21,641
26 December 2001 3–0 Division One16,630 League double (5th for Millwall)
7 December 2002 1–0 Division One19,301
21 April 2003 3–2 Division One10,670
30 August 2003 1–1 Draw Division One14,425
26 December 2003 0–1 Division One19,737
3 December 2005 1–1 Draw 19,571
18 February 2006 1–1 Draw 12,296
16 October 2010 0–1 16,693
1 January 2011 3–0 16,170 Puncheon scored a hat-trick for Millwall, league double (6th for Millwall)
26 November 2011 0–0 Draw 15,150
31 December 2011 0–1 16,085 First win at The Den for 15 years.
20 October 2012 2–2 Draw 16,124
30 April 2013 0–0 Draw 12,745
8 January 2022 1–2 16,646 Third round. First FA Cup game between the sides for 37 years.

Millwall v AFC Wimbledon

Millwall and Wimbledon first met in the First round of the FA Cup in 2009, when Wimbledon were playing in the Conference National. Millwall won the game 4–1. The two sides have only played in the same tier together once, in the 2016–17 League One season and both games were drawn. They've played two other cup games; a 2–1 win for Millwall in the League Cup in 2013 and most recently in 2019, an FA Cup Fifth round game at Kingsmeadow, which Millwall won 1–0.

By competition

CompetitionPlayedMillwall winsDrawnAFC Wimbledon winsMillwall goalsAFC Wimbledon goals
Football League2 0 2 0 2 2
FA Cup2 2 0 0 5 1
League Cup1 1 0 0 2 1
Total[27] 5 3 2 0 9 4

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
9 November 2009 4–1 9,453 First ever competitive meeting, First round.
6 August 2013 2–1 4,443 First round.
22 November 2016 0–0 Draw 8,614 First ever league meeting.
2 January 2017 2–2 Draw 4,742
16 February 2019 0–1 4,795 Fifth round.

Sutton United v AFC Wimbledon

This matchup has become known as the Thameslink derby, after the train operator that serves both locales. Sutton United and Wimbledon first met in the Third round of the FA Cup on 7 January 2017, when Sutton were a non-league club playing in the National League. The teams drew 0–0 at Gander Green Lane. Sutton won the replay 3–1 at Kingsmeadow.

By competition

CompetitionPlayedSutton United winsDrawnAFC Wimbledon winsSutton United goalsAFC Wimbledon goals
Football League4 3 0 1 4 4
FA Cup2 1 1 0 3 1
Football League Trophy2 1 0 1 1 1
Total[28] 8 5 1 2 8 6

Full list of results

Score lists home team first.

Date Score Winner Competition Venue Attendance Notes
7 January 2017 0–0 Draw 8,614 Third round. First ever meeting.
17 January 2017 1–3 4,768 Third round replay. First ever South London derby win for Sutton.
9 November 2021 1–0 2,458 Group game. Sutton went on to lose in the final at Wembley Stadium.
15 October 2022 0–1 8,568 First ever league meeting between the sides. First league derby win for Sutton.
22 November 2022 1–0 1,854 Round of 32, Southern Section. First Wimbledon derby win over Sutton.
1 January 2023 2–1 5,049 League double (1st for Sutton).
19 August 2023 0–3 4,719 First away win for Wimbledon.
26 December 2023 0–1 8,575 Last league derby for Sutton before being relegated back to non-league.

All-time results

The table includes all competitive first-team games played between the London rivals. From the first game played between Crystal Palace and Millwall on 17 November 1906, to the most recent South London derby played by newly promoted Bromley. Defunct club Wimbledon's results are included in a separate table below.

TeamPlayedWonDrawnLostForAgainstWin %
Bromley
Charlton Athletic
Crystal Palace
Millwall
Sutton United
AFC Wimbledon
Total664 241 184 241 866 866

Crossing the divides

Managers

Jimmy Seed, Alan Mullery, Iain Dowie, Ian Holloway and Alan Pardew have all permanently managed two South London clubs. Seed was in charge of Charlton for 23 years from 1933 to 1956, leading them to one of the most successful periods of their history, with successive promotions to the top-flight and an FA Cup Final win in 1947. He was sacked in 1956 after a bad run of form and took over at Millwall in 1958. Seed's start at The Den was poor, with the team going nine matches without a win. The team finished in 23rd place in Division Three (south). The following year saw The Lions playing in the new Fourth Division in which they finished 9th. Seed resigned at the end of that season, but stayed with the club as a director until his death on 16 July 1966.

Alan Mullery was in charge of Charlton from 1981 to 1982 and left to take the helm at Crystal Palace, where he remained manager until 1984. Theo Foley was Charlton manager from 1970 to 1974 and was briefly in charge of Millwall as a caretaker manager in 1977. Steve Gritt, who was joint-manager at Charlton with Alan Curbishley from 1991 to 1995, was also caretaker at Millwall briefly in 2000. Lennie Lawrence was Charlton's manager from 1982 to 1991 and was assistant manager at Crystal Palace, before joining former manager Dougie Freedman at Bolton Wanderers.

Iain Dowie was in charge of Crystal Palace between 21 December 2003 and 22 May 2006, when he was allowed to resign from his post, apparently to return to northern England because his wife was homesick. However, eight days later Premier League club Charlton unveiled Dowie as their new manager. Simon Jordan, Palace's chairman, immediately issued Dowie with a writ, claiming that he had misled him about his reasons for leaving the club; Dowie, however, insisted this was not the case, and was publicly backed by Charlton chief executive Peter Varney, who branded the writ "a sad and pathetic publicity stunt", and chairman Richard Murray, who was adamant that his legal team could find no grounds for the writ to be upheld, and suggested that there may be more personal reasons behind the writ being issued. The case was heard in the High Court in the summer of 2007 where a judge ruled that Dowie had lied when negotiating his way out of his contract. His spell at Charlton was largely unsuccessful and they parted company on 13 November 2006, after just 15 games in charge.

Ian Holloway took charge of Crystal Palace in November 2012.[29] He guided them to promotion to the Premier League via the 2013 Football League play-offs, after beating Watford 1–0 with a penalty converted by Kevin Philips in extra time. On 23 October 2013, Holloway left the club by mutual consent after less than a year in charge.[30] He managed to gain only three points from their first eight games in the top flight. On 6 January 2014, Holloway signed a two-and-a-half-year deal with Millwall, taking over from Steve Lomas.[31] On 6 January 2014 he signed two-and-a-half-year deal with Millwall, taking over from Steve Lomas.[31] He guided the club to Championship safety for the 2013–14 season as Millwall finished 19th, four points above the relegation places. In the 2014–15 season, as Millwall dropped in the relegation places in The Championship, Holloway admitted that he had become an unpopular manager with the Millwall fans.[32] On 10 March 2015, Holloway was sacked, with the team second from bottom in the Championship and having lost five of their last six games.[33] Former Charlton player Gary Rowett became Millwall manager on 21 October 2019.[34] Rowett played 13 games for Charlton in the Premier League before being forced to retire through injury.[35] Former Addicks player Johnnie Jackson managed Charlton from December 2021 until he was sacked in May 2022. Later that month, he signed a two-year contract as AFC Wimbledon manager.[36] Steve Morison, Millwall's third all-time top scorer with 92 goals, became Sutton's manager in January 2024. But he couldn't save them from relegation back to the National League.

Players

Players who have played for at least two of the four clubs are listed below. As of 18 August 2012 (the last game he played for Millwall), Darren Ward has played the most games for South London teams, with 317 appearances in total (232 for Millwall, 69 for Crystal Palace and 16 for Charlton). Peter Burridge played 114 games for Palace, 87 for Millwall and 44 for Charlton. He holds the record for most goals scored by a player for South London clubs, with 104 in 245 appearances.Charlton & Palace

Charlton & Millwall

Millwall & Palace

Charlton & AFC Wimbledon

Millwall & AFC Wimbledon

Palace & AFC Wimbledon

Charlton, Palace & Millwall

Charlton, Millwall & AFC Wimbledon

Charlton, Palace & AFC Wimbledon

Palace, Millwall & AFC Wimbledon

Wimbledon FC and AFC Wimbledon

See also: Wimbledon F.C., Relocation of Wimbledon F.C. to Milton Keynes and AFC Wimbledon. The 2003 relocation and 2004 renaming of Wimbledon F.C. as Milton Keynes Dons meant that a South London derby team was lost.[37] In 2002 the majority of Wimbledon supporters formed a new team, AFC Wimbledon, based at Kingsmeadow in Kingston upon Thames.[38] The non-League club started in the Combined Counties League, and played their first competitive South London derby on 9 November 2009, losing 4–1 away at Millwall in an FA Cup first-round match.[39] Having worked their way up through non-League with five promotions in nine seasons, AFC Wimbledon were promoted first into Football League Two for the 2011–12 season.[40] They spent five seasons at that level before being promoted into League One for the 2016–17 season, where they competed in the same league as Charlton Athletic and Millwall.[41]

Wimbledon FC's derby results

Wimbledon played their first South London derby against Millwall on 5 April 1980, a game which ended 2–2. On 24 March 2004, they played their last derby also against Millwall, which they lost 0–1. Their record in all competitions against Charlton, Crystal Palace and Millwall is as follows:

OpponentPlayedWinsDrawsLossesGoals forGoals againstWin %
Charlton Athletic16 8 4 4 28 21 50
Crystal Palace26 8 5 13 35 39 31
Millwall22 9 8 5 34 27 41
Total[42] [43] [44] 64 25 17 22 97 87

See also

References

Bibliography

External links

Notes and References

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