Hamburg derby explained

Hamburg derby
Other Names:Hamburger Stadtderby
Team1:Hamburger SV
Team1logo:Hamburger SV logo.svg
Team2:FC St. Pauli
Team2logo:Fc st pauli logo.svg
City Or Region:Hamburg, Germany
First Contested:7 December 1919
Teams Involved:Hamburger SV & FC St. Pauli
Most Wins:HSV (70)
Series:HSV: 70
Drawn: 17
St. Pauli: 24
Mostrecent:HSV 1–0 St. Pauli
2. Bundesliga
3 May 2024
Nextmeeting:TBA
Largestvictory:
(13 November 1924)

The Hamburg derby or Hamburger Stadtderby is a football rivalry between two major Hamburg sides, Hamburger SV and FC St. Pauli.[1]

In total, the two sides met 107 times since 1919, of which Hamburger SV won 68 games and FC St. Pauli won 23 games. Earlier games between Hamburger SV, its predecessors SC Germania, Hamburger FC and FC Falke 1906, and St. Pauli TV are not counted here. Hamburger SV was formed from a merger in 1919, and FC St. Pauli was formed as a separate football side through a divorce with St. Pauli TV in 1924.

History

Hamburger SV was founded when SC Germania of 1887, Hamburger FC of 1888 and FC Falke 1906 merged in 1919 (the date of SC Germania's founding is the official club foundation year given as 1887). FC St. Pauli emerged in 1924 as a spin-off from the Hamburg St. Pauli Turnverein gymnastics club. After its foundation, Hamburger SV rose to become the largest club in the city, and after the Second World War, FC St. Pauli replaced Eimsbütteler TV as a competitor of "HSV".

The first match between HSV and St. Pauli TV was played on 7 December 1919 in the "Hamburg Championship", Hamburger SV won this match 9–0. The first win for FC St. Pauli, whose nickname is "Kiezkicker", came on 19 October 1930, when they won 1–0 in their first encounter in the "Oberliga Hamburg". Matches between Hamburger SV and FC St. Pauli were played almost every year before the two sides parted ways after the Bundesliga was founded in 1963: HSV became the record champions of the Oberliga Nord in the Bundesliga, while FC St. Pauli played in the Regionalliga Nord. In 1974, they moved up to the newly founded 2. Bundesliga and in 1977, they succeeded in advancing to the Bundesliga, making this the first Hamburg city derby to be held in the Bundesliga. In the previous season, the 1976/77 season, HSV won the 1976-77 European Cup Winners' Cup and was therefore considered the more successful club. Nevertheless, FC St. Pauli won the match in the Volksparkstadion, the home ground of HSV, 2–0. The return match was also played in the Hamburger SV stadium, although FC St. Pauli was the home team. HSV won this match 3–2, and FC St. Pauli retired from the Bundesliga at the end of the 1977/78 season. The next clash occurred in the 1986/87 season, when Hamburger SV played FC St. Pauli in the DFB Cup. HSV won 6–0 in their own stadium.

From 1988 to 1991, from 1995 to 1997, and in the 2001–02 season, FC St. Pauli played in the Bundesliga again, playing the city derbies, in which they had home rights, in the Volksparkstadion. Out of a total of 12 games, they were unable to win any of them (five draws, seven defeats). After FC St. Pauli was relegated to the 2. Bundesliga at the end of the 2001–02 season, they even had to play in the Regionalliga Nord in 2003. In 2007 FC St. Pauli returned to the 2. Bundesliga, and in 2010 the "Kiezkickers" finally made it back to the Bundesliga. The first leg on 19 October 2010 was the first game since 1962 to be played in an FC St. Pauli stadium. This ended with a 1–1 draw. In the return match on 16 February 2011 in the Volksparkstadion, FC St. Pauli won 1-0 through Gerald Asamoah's goal, it was FC St. Pauli's first win against Hamburger SV since 1977. Nevertheless, the club from the St. Pauli quarter relegated to the 2. Bundesliga at the end of the 2010/11 season.

With the relegation of Hamburger SV into 2. Bundesliga in 2018, the Hamburg derbies became more frequent. The first leg in the 2018–19 season was hosted in Volksparkstadion and ended with a goalless draw; HSV won the second leg 4-0 at Millerntor-Stadion, their first away victory in the derby in a league match in 57 years. Nevertheless, HSV missed the return to Bundesliga and placed fourth. Afterwards, St. Pauli won four of the next five fixtures in the derby, and before the league match at Volksparkstadion in January 2022, the Kiezkicker was the leader of the table, but HSV won 2-1, the first home win in over 20 years in the Hamburg derby. To the end of the 2021–22 season, FC St. Pauli missed the promotion to Bundesliga and placed fifth; Hamburger SV placed third and qualified for the promotion/relegation play-offs against Hertha Berlin. HSV won the first leg 1–0, but lost the second-leg 0-2 and missed out on promotion to Bundesliga.

Fans

Since the 1980s the derby is seen as both a clash of football and political ideology. Given the location of HSV's Volksparkstadion, St. Pauli fans often mock HSV to be a Vorstadtverein (suburban club) or St. Ellingen as HSV's Volksparkstadion is located at the outskirts of Hamburg. Conversely, HSV supporters mock St. Pauli - in particular their popular slogan Hamburg ist braun-weiß (Hamburg is brown-white; their colors) - as a small club whose fans are regarded as being more interested in political slogans than football.

The political divide was particularly notable in the 1980s, when the HSV fan scene had a small contingent of organized neo-nazi groups. St Pauli's supporter base is more left-wing due to its popularity among squatters and counterculture subcultures of the local area in the 80s, specifically when squatters from the Hafenstrasse and Rote Flora started attending St. Pauli matches and created the leftist fan scene the club is known for today.[2] In recent years, this has extended beyond Hamburg all across Germany and Europe. Additionally, over time HSV has developed a more inclusive fanbase, such as signing a refugee player[3] and having a first team coach of color.[4]

In 2018 there were clashes between the supporters. HSV ultras disrupted a concert where there were bands linked to St. Pauli playing. Subsequently, St. Pauli fans attacked their rivals' choreography preparations, injuring two HSV ultras in the process.[5]

Latest results

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13 November 1960Millerntor-Stadion1–61960–61 Oberliga Nord
11 March 1961Volksparkstadion2–21960–61 Oberliga Nord
16 September 1961Volksparkstadion3–11961–62 Oberliga Nord
11 March 1962Millerntor-Stadion1–21961–62 Oberliga Nord
7 October 1962Millerntor-Stadion1–31962–63 Oberliga Nord
16 February 1963Volksparkstadion3–21962–63 Oberliga Nord
2 August 1972Millerntor-Stadion1–41972–73 DFB Ligapokal (group stage)
24 August 1972Sportplatz at Rothenbaum0–01972–73 DFB Ligapokal (group stage)
3 September 1977Volksparkstadion0–21977–78 Bundesliga
28 January 1978Volksparkstadion2–31977–78 Bundesliga
19 November 1986Volksparkstadion6–01986–87 DFB Pokal (RO16)
3 September 1988Volksparkstadion1–11988–89 Bundesliga
23 March 1989Volksparkstadion1–21988–89 Bundesliga
16 September 1989Volksparkstadion0–01989–90 Bundesliga
24 March 1990Volksparkstadion0–01989–90 Bundesliga
25 November 1990Volksparkstadion0–21990–91 Bundesliga
1 June 1991Volksparkstadion5–01990–91 Bundesliga
24 November 1995Volksparkstadion1–01995–96 Bundesliga
5 May 1996Volksparkstadion1–11995–96 Bundesliga
15 September 1996Volksparkstadion3–01996–97 Bundesliga
14 March 1997Volksparkstadion2–21996–97 Bundesliga
2 December 2001Volksparkstadion4–32001–02 Bundesliga
19 April 2002Volksparkstadion0–42001–02 Bundesliga
19 September 2010Millerntor-Stadion1–12010–11 Bundesliga
16 February 20110–12010–11 Bundesliga
30 September 2018Volksparkstadion0–02018–19 2. Bundesliga
10 March 2019Millerntor-Stadion0–42018–19 2. Bundesliga
16 September 2019Millerntor-Stadion2–02019–20 2. Bundesliga
22 February 2020Volksparkstadion0–22019–20 2. Bundesliga
30 October 2020Volksparkstadion2–22020–21 2. Bundesliga
1 March 2021Millerntor-Stadion1–02020–21 2. Bundesliga
13 August 2021Millerntor-Stadion3–22021–22 2. Bundesliga
21 January 2022Volksparkstadion2–12021–22 2. Bundesliga
14 October 2022Millerntor-Stadion3–02022–23 2. Bundesliga
21 April 2023Volksparkstadion4–32022–23 2. Bundesliga
1 December 2023Millerntor-Stadion2–22023–24 2. Bundesliga
3 May 2024Volksparkstadion1–02023–24 2. Bundesliga

All matches

As of 3 May 2024

MatchesWins
Hamburg
DrawsWins
St.Pauli
Goals
Hamburg
Goals
St.Pauli
Bundesliga Matches168622914
2. Bundesliga Matches124351719
DFB-Pokal Matches3300142
DFB-Ligapokal Matches211041
Local and Regional Matches785471728389
Total matches111701724347125

Major honors

CompetitionHamburger SVFC St. Pauli
German champions/ Bundesliga60
DFB-Pokal30
DFL-Ligapokal20
UEFA Champions League10
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup10
UEFA Intertoto Cup20
Total140

Notes and References

  1. Web site: Wildhagen. Niklas. Bundesliga Rivalries: Hamburg SV and St. Pauli. 2015-11-07. 2015-02-24. https://web.archive.org/web/20150224055642/http://bundesligafanatic.com/bundesliga-rivalries-hamburg-sv-st-pauli/. live.
  2. Book: Doing Fandom: Lessons from Football in Gender, Emotions, Space . 9783030468705 . Rapoport . Tamar . 7 September 2020 . Springer .
  3. Web site: The wait is over for Hamburg's Bakery Jatta . 2022-06-20 . 2022-06-20 . https://web.archive.org/web/20220620081511/https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/noblsp-wait-over-for-hamburger-svs-bakery-jatta.jsp . live .
  4. Web site: Daniel Thioune: Who is Hamburg's new head coach? . 2022-06-20 . 2022-06-20 . https://web.archive.org/web/20220620081509/https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/daniel-thioune-who-is-hamburg-s-new-head-coach-marco-reus-julian-nagelsmann-11929 . live .
  5. Web site: Hamburg vs. St. Pauli: One city, two clubs, different worlds | DW | 01.10.2018 . . 2022-06-20 . 2022-06-20 . https://web.archive.org/web/20220620074842/https://www.dw.com/en/hamburg-vs-st-pauli-one-city-two-clubs-different-worlds/a-45707812 . live .