Forget What You Know Explained

Forget What You Know
Type:Album
Artist:Midtown
Cover:Midtown-ForgetWhatYouKnow.jpg
Alt:A man sitting at a table eating cereal and watching TV
Released:June 29, 2004
Recorded:November 2003
Studio:Ruby Red, Midtown Atlanta
Genre:Emo, pop punk
Length:52:43
Label:Columbia
Producer:Butch Walker
Prev Title:Living Well Is the Best Revenge
Prev Year:2002

Forget What You Know is the third studio album by American rock band Midtown. Following the release of Living Well Is the Best Revenge (2002), MCA was merged into Geffen Records, and the band was not picked up by the latter label. The group spent time writing on their next album and following a meeting with Butch Walker, moved to Atlanta, Georgia, to start recording the new material. Walker headed the producing helm and Forget What You Know was recorded in late 2003 at Ruby Red Studios. The album is classified as an emo and pop punk release; its songs were compared with those of Division of Laura Lee, Recover and Jimmy Eat World.

The release of Forget What You Know was announced in April 2004 and the band embarked on a US tour, during which "Give It Up" was released as a single, and a music video for the song was released after the tour finished. Forget What You Know was released on June 29, 2004, through Columbia Records; it reached number 109 on the Billboard 200 and "Give It Up" peaked at number 32 on the Alternative Songs radio chart. Music critics gave the album a mixed reception with some complimenting its energy and sound, and others finding it average. Midtown went on two other US tours and performed shows in Australia and the UK, and embarked upon another US tour in late 2004. A music video for "Empty Like the Ocean" was released in March 2005 and a headlining US tour and a stint on the Warped Tour followed.

Background

In 1999, Midtown signed to the independent label Drive-Thru Records and released their debut album Save the World, Lose the Girl (2000) through it.[1] Sometime afterwards, communication between the label and the group became difficult. Vocalist/bassist Gabe Saporta was concerned Drive-Thru were focussing their efforts on New Found Glory, which Saporta helped to sign with the label, rather than Midtown, and a public feud between Saporta and the label's founders Richard and Stefanie Reines ensued.[2] Drive-Thru had a distribution deal with major label MCA Records that allowed MCA to acquire Drive-Thru Records' bands over a period of time.[3] Midtown's next album Living Well Is the Best Revenge (2002) was a joint release by Drive-Thru and MCA.[4]

According to drummer Rob Hitt, MCA had a few groups that performed well commercially and Drive-Thru "wanted to put every other band into that same cookie-cutter mold. And we didn't want that."[1] Midtown later had negative experiences with the label, which wanted to feature the band in teen magazines.[1] Around the time, MCA had acquired acts that were dissimilar to Drive-Thru's bands; MCA was investing in the less-successful groups and lost a substantial amount of money.[1] Midtown then entered into a legal battle to leave Drive-Thru that lasted for a year. By mid-2003, MCA was absorbed by Universal Music Group subsidiary Geffen Records, and its staff and roster were moved to Geffen.[5]

Writing and recording

As the merger was occurring, Midtown was writing material for its next album.[1] Geffen believed the group was inactive due to their break from touring, and did not pick up the band from MCA. Hitt said the band didn't wish to release a new album, despite "make it seem like we had all these things going on".[1] Saporta said "as far as anyone cared, we were dead. No one gave a shit" about the group by the time they were working on the next album. Sometime afterwards, Midtown played a show with Butch Walker, after which Walker's manager started to manage the group. According to Saporta, after talking with Walker on another occasion, "he was like, 'Oh, I've heard your demos, I think they're great. I'd love to do your record'". Saporta, having grown suspicious of people talking to him after the legal battle, was ambivalent to Walker's offer. By October 2003, the band considered themselves free agents.[6] They temporarily moved to Atlanta, Georgia,[7] where recording sessions were held at Ruby Red Studios in Midtown Atlanta with Walker and Russ T serving as engineers.

Despite not being fans of Walker's work, the group worked with him for the sessions. They wanted a rawer sound compared to the polished direction of the last two albums, both of which were produced by Mark Trombino.[8] Saporta's said Walker's work was "all very slick" and they wanted to create something "a little more rock and roll". Saporta said they aimed to make the record for themselves and that "[we] were just like, 'Okay, we're going to make an awesome record for ourselves and prove something to ourselves,' and that's all we cared about." In addition to playing their usual instruments, Saporta did some programming and Hitt sang. With recording lasting three weeks in November, the group recorded 18 songs.[9] All the recordings, but "Give it Up", were mixed by Walker and Russ T, and mastered by George Marino at Sterling Sound in New York City. "Give It Up" was mixed by Jay Baumgardner and mastered by Vlado Meller at Sony Music Studios, also in New York City.

Composition

Forget What You Know has been described as emo and pop punk, having similarities with the work of Alkaline Trio. The album showcases more energy than the group's previous album and highlights a moody atmosphere, which was likely influenced by Midtown's battle with their former label. Saporta' vocals were compared to those of the Wallflowers' frontman Jakob Dylan and Millencolin, leaning to a wail. While writing the album, Saporta was "going through a tough time, where everything that I thought I knew was proven to be false and the world just started redefining itself".[10] The album, which has a darker overtone than Midtown's earlier work, is about the "realization that the reality that I knew was fake ... [and that] you're always going to be okay, there's always going to be something that gets you through in your new reality".[10]

Discussing the album title, the band said; "Forget what you know about the world; forget what you know about yourself. Forget what you think you know about Project Mayhem. Embrace nothingness, be everything." The opening track "Armageddon." acts as an introduction and has gang vocals shouting the phrase "So hard to believe you what you're looking for" before segueing into the post-punk track "To Our Savior", which is similar to the output of the Swedish band Division of Laura Lee. "Is It Me? Is It True?" features a toy piano and is followed by an instrumental interlude titled, "God Is Dead," which is an extrapolation of the vocal melody on the following track, "Whole New World." "Help Me Sleep" was compared to the work of the band Recover. The album's closing track "So Long as We Keep Our Bodies Numb We're Safe" ends with almost-10-minute-long loops of the phrases "You've had all the time in the world" and "You don't listen", and due to its loops and length has been compared to "Goodbye Sky Harbor" (1999) by Jimmy Eat World.

Release and promotion

Forget What You Know was sent to several record labels[11] in early 2004.[9] On January 23, "Is It Me? Is It True?" was made available for download through AbsolutePunk.[12] On April 7, the release of Forget What You Know was announced for June 2004,[13] and that it would be released through Sony Music Entertainment imprint Columbia Records. In addition, the album's track listing was revealed.[14] "Give It Up" was released as a single on May 18 that year.[15] [14] Between late April and early June 2004, Midtown went on a co-headlining US tour with Armor for Sleep and Your Enemies Friends; they were supported on select dates by Time and Distance, the Working Title, Stars Hide Fire, Vise Versa, Emanuel and Lance's Hero.[16] Following this, they appeared at the Best Music Poll 2004 festival.[17] On June 12, a music video for "Give It Up" was released, together with a behind-the-scenes "making of" video.[14] Forget What You Know was released through Columbia Records on June 29, 2004.[13] It was subsequently released in Australia on August 16, Canada on August 24, and in Germany and the UK on September 24.[14]

To promote the album's release, Midtown performed a few in-store live shows.[14] In July and August 2004, the band went on tour with Lostprophets[18] and later played in Japan and Canada.[19] In September and October, the group appeared on the Rock Against Bush tour in the US.[20] The group then toured Australia and the UK with Hidden in Plain View.[14] They returned to the US in November for a tour with Matchbook Romance[21] and Hidden in Plain View. the Academy Is... and Name Taken appeared on select shows.[14] In mid-December, the group played three shows with Paulson, Senses Fail and Moneen,[22] and five shows with Fall Out Boy, the Academy Is... and Gym Class Heroes.[23] In March and April 2005, the group performed across the US as part of the Fueled By Ramen & Friends Tour.[24]

On March 18, 2005, a music video for "Empty Like the Ocean" was released.[25] At the end of April, the group appeared at The Bamboozle festival before embarking on a headlining tour with Plain White T's, Action Action and Rock Kills Kid.[26] The group was initially scheduled to appear on the Warped Tour between mid-June and mid-August[27] but pulled out of all of the shows except the last five.[28] The group disbanded later in the year, making Forget What You Know their last album release.[29] In a 2006 interview, guitarist Heath Saraceno explained that "it veered far away from any sort of resemblance to a democracy that it once had. One person in particular took all the control, and the rest of us were just kinda stuck there trying to give input and being shut down at almost every turn".[30] "Sister Golden Hair", a cover of the America song recorded during the album's sessions, was released in November 2006.[31]

Reception

Forget What You Know spent two weeks on the Billboard 200, peaking at number 109 on the chart dated July 17, 2004. "Give It Up" charted at number 32 on the Alternative Songs radio chart.[32]

The album received mixed reviews from most music critics. Exclaim! writer Liz Worth said "There isn't a weak track here, but there are some that really shine", particularly "Empty Like the Ocean" and "Hey Baby, Don't You Know That We're All Whores".[33] She also said the record would go down well with fans of punk's more melodic nature.[33] Kaj Roth of Melodic found the album a "well produced" release with "energetic" sounds, like those found on an archetypal emo record. With neither any stand-outs or bad songs, Roth said Forget What You Know is a "solid good album to listen to".

In a review for Blender, journalist Maura Johnston said the album only missteps when the tempo "slows down and [Midtown's] peppy embrace of nihilism and nothingness stops pogoing". Ox-Fanzine Kid Dynamite viewed it as "unfortunately only mediocre", noting the "catchy melodies, polyphonic vocals, variety … the whole thing never seems too pop". Punknews.org writer Brian Shultz said Saporta's vocals had "gone absolutely berserk. It almost sounds like he's trying to reach pitches he's incapable of making." He regarded it as "more fluid and energized" than the group's preceding album but said it is "hardly as bold or invigorating" as their debut release. AllMusic reviewer Johnny Loftus complimented the group's "leaner, more moody sound" despite them abandoning "sugar-high" hooks for "less direct yet still succinct songcraft". Loftus said the release is not "a sun-and-sand summertime record" but it set the stage for "kids making the transition from goofy preteen pop-punk to bands like the Alkaline Trio".

Track listing

All lyrics by Gabe Saporta. All music by Midtown. All songs produced by Butch Walker.

Personnel

Personnel per booklet.[34] Midtown

Production

Release history

RegionDateLabelFormat
United StatesJune 29, 2004ColumbiaCD, DL
AustraliaAugust 16, 2004
CanadaAugust 24, 2004
GermanySeptember 24, 2004
UK

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Notes and References

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  2. Manley 2008, p. 116
  3. Billboard 1999, p. 74
  4. Living Well Is the Best Revenge. . 2002. Booklet. Drive-Thru/MCA Records. 112 886-2.
  5. News: Billboard. MCA & Geffen Merger. ISM Sound Network. May 20, 2003. https://web.archive.org/web/20051226220437/http://www.ismsound.net/index/news/id.77. December 26, 2005. April 23, 2018.
  6. Web site: Interview with Rob Hitt of Midtown. https://web.archive.org/web/20050215193841/http://pucknation.com/columns/interview_article.asp?id=3010. Pucknation. Puckett. October 23, 2003. February 15, 2005. August 25, 2022.
  7. Web site: New Midtown album update. Punknews.org. Heisel, Scott. December 18, 2003. April 24, 2018. https://web.archive.org/web/20180424123932/https://www.punknews.org/article/7891/new-midtown-album-update. April 24, 2018. live.
  8. Web site: Interview with Midtown. https://web.archive.org/web/20080327004126/http://www.europunk.net/interviews.php?id=61. Europunk. Tom. April 24, 2004. March 27, 2008. December 18, 2021.
  9. Web site: Bio of Midtown. PureVolume. April 23, 2018.
  10. Web site: Midtown: Interview With Gabe Saporta. The Aquarian Weekly. Diane Casazza, Chris Farinas. Koczan, JJ. April 13, 2005. April 23, 2018. 2. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20120427123735/http://www.theaquarian.com/2005/04/13/midtown-interview-with-gabe-saporta/2/. April 27, 2012.
  11. Web site: Midtown Biography & History. AllMusic. Proefrock, Stacia. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20130916160336/http://www.allmusic.com/artist/midtown-mn0000480956/biography. September 16, 2013.
  12. Web site: Midtown Produced By Butch Walker, posts New Song Online. Melodic. Wippsson, Johan. January 23, 2004. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20180423152116/http://melodic.net/?page=news&id=2035. April 23, 2018.
  13. Web site: Midtown Prod.by Butch Walker Out In June. Melodic. Roth, Kaj. April 7, 2004. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20180423152115/http://melodic.net/?page=news&id=2382. April 23, 2018.
  14. Web site: Recent News. https://web.archive.org/web/20041204072625/http://midtownrock.com/NE10.php. Midtown. December 4, 2004. April 23, 2018. dead.
  15. Web site: FMQB Airplay Archive: Modern Rock . FMQB. October 30, 2016 . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20130322142732/http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16771 . March 22, 2013 .
  16. Web site: Midtown/Armor For Sleep/Your Enemies Friends. Punknews.org. Heisel, Scott. March 25, 2004. April 24, 2018. https://web.archive.org/web/20180424132856/https://www.punknews.org/article/8745/tours-midtown-armor-for-sleep-your-enemies-friends. April 24, 2018. live.
  17. Web site: The Explosion, The Lot Six, Street Dogs and more at Boston Best Music Poll 2004. https://web.archive.org/web/20211027184832/https://www.punknews.org/article/9235/the-explosion-the-lot-six-street-dogs-and-more-at-boston-best-music-poll-2004. Punknews.org. White, Adam. May 22, 2004. October 27, 2021. October 27, 2021.
  18. Web site: Lostprophets Return to the States for Summer Concert Tour. Sony Corporation of America. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20180423111615/http://sony.mediaroom.com/2004-06-24-Lostprophets-Return-to-the-States-for-Summer-Concert-Tour. April 23, 2018.
  19. Web site: Tour Dates. https://web.archive.org/web/20040807170059/http://midtownrock.com/TR10.php. Midtown. August 7, 2004. April 23, 2018. dead.
  20. Web site: Rock Against Bush Tour. Punknews.org. White, Adam. August 17, 2004. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20180423152115/https://www.punknews.org/article/9981/tours-rock-against-bush-tour. April 23, 2018.
  21. Web site: Tour Dates. https://web.archive.org/web/20041011174439/http://www.midtownrock.com/TR10.php. Midtown. October 11, 2004. April 23, 2018. dead.
  22. Web site: Paulson tour dates with Burnthe8Track, Senses Fail, Midtown, and Moneen. Punknews.org. Paul, Aubin. October 22, 2004. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20180423152115/https://www.punknews.org/article/10570/tours-paulson-tour-dates-with-burnthe8track-senses-fail-midtown-and-moneen. April 23, 2018.
  23. Web site: Tour Dates. https://web.archive.org/web/20041204073419/http://midtownrock.com/TR10.php. Midtown. December 4, 2004. April 23, 2018. dead.
  24. Web site: The Fueled By Ramen & Friends Tour 2005. Punknews.org. Shultz, Brian. January 19, 2005. April 23, 2018. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20180423152116/https://www.punknews.org/article/11395/tours-the-fueled-by-ramen-and-friends-tour-2005. April 23, 2018.
  25. Web site: Midtown posts video for 'Empty Like The Ocean'. Punknews.org. Shultz, Brian. March 18, 2005. April 24, 2018. https://web.archive.org/web/20180424120847/https://www.punknews.org/article/11968/midtown-posts-video-for-empty-like-the-ocean. April 24, 2018. live.
  26. Web site: Recent News. https://web.archive.org/web/20060815153142/http://blog.columbiarecords.com/midtown/news.html. Columbia Records. August 15, 2006. April 23, 2018. dead.
  27. Web site: Warped Tour Lineup, Itinerary Officially Announced. MTV. Kaufman, Gil. March 3, 2005. September 18, 2016. dead. https://web.archive.org/web/20160919073810/http://www.mtv.com/news/1497704/warped-tour-lineup-itinerary-officially-announced/. September 19, 2016.
  28. Web site: Midtown cancels most Warped Tour appearances, recording this summer. Punknews.org. Paul, Aubin. April 2, 2005. April 24, 2018. https://web.archive.org/web/20180424121809/https://www.punknews.org/article/12118/midtown-cancels-most-warped-tour-appearances-recording-this-summer. April 24, 2018. live.
  29. Web site: Gabe Saporta dishes on Midtown reunion: "I don't want to half-ass this". Alternative Press. March 4, 2014. April 16, 2020. May 7, 2020. https://web.archive.org/web/20200507013540/https://www.altpress.com/features/gabe_saporta_dishes_on_midtown_reunion_i_dont_want_to_half_ass_this/. live.
  30. Web site: Senses Fail. Punktastic. Savage, Paul. November 22, 2006. August 26, 2022. March 20, 2015. https://web.archive.org/web/20150320142109/http://punktastic.com/interviews/senses-fail-2/. live.
  31. Web site: Midtown post previously unreleased B-side. Alternative Press. November 13, 2006. August 7, 2016. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20160822195850/http://www.altpress.com/index.php/news/entry/archive_1492. August 22, 2016.
  32. Midtown Chart History (Alternative Songs). Billboard. January 5, 2020. August 26, 2022. https://web.archive.org/web/20220826191110/https://www.billboard.com/artist/midtown/chart-history/mrt/. live.
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  34. Forget What You Know. Midtown. 2004. booklet. Columbia Records. COL 517679 2/5176792000.