Eden Ramblers Explained

Clubname:Eden Ramblers
Fullname:Eden Ramblers
Colours:Green and Gold
Founded:1911
Exited:1913
Ground:Avondale Racecourse
League:Auckland Rugby League

Eden Ramblers was a rugby league club in Auckland which played in the Auckland Rugby League competition from 1911 to 1913. They were based in the Avondale suburb of Auckland where they largely trained and played and held meetings in Point Chevalier.

Club History

Formation

On 11 April the New Zealand Herald reported that there was "every probability of a club forming in Avondale" and the league would send officials on the night of the 12th to meet with interested parties.[1] The first meeting was held in Carter's Hall, Point Chevalier on Wednesday April 12. Mr. Harry Oakley, secretary of the Auckland Rugby League presided. While Percy Ussher, treasurer also addressed the meeting. H.A. Cummings moved, and Bob Noone seconded "that a club be formed to play under Northern Union rules, to affiliate with the Auckland Provincial Rugby League". The motion was carried unanimously. Mr. John Bollard, M.P. was elected as the first president of the club and B. Noone the honorary secretary ex officio. Thirty members handed their names to the secretary. It was said that they would be made up of players representing the Avondale, Point Chevalier, and Mount Albert districts. The club stated that they intended to enter a team for both senior and junior grades. It was also noted that there had been a misunderstanding about the meeting venue and an apology was given to some of the Avondale players. Their next meeting was put down for Wednesday, 19 April at the same location.[2]

The club met again on the evening of 26 April at a meeting in the Avondale Public Hall which still stands, to the left of the Hollywood Cinema. Mr. John Bollard, M.P. (president of the club) presided over the meeting. It was decided to name the club the Eden Ramblers Football Club with their colours to be green and gold. The following were elected to their first board:- Hon. Secretary, Mr. B. Noone; management committee, Messrs W.A. Cummings, J Eddowes, W. Fairweather, M. Morrow, and J. Denyer. With the addition of “several new members” the total club membership was “close to 50”. They had already begun to organise a practice match at Victoria Park with the Ponsonby United club.[3]

On 29 April it was reported that "the newly formed Avondale club will practice with the Ponsonby players at Victoria Park" on the same day.[4] Their first ever meeting was in Point Chevalier however they practised and played some matches also in Avondale. One possible explanation for their choice of name (Eden) was that their first club president, M.P. John Bollard was the M.P. for the Eden Electorate which Avondale was a part of.

First season

They immediately entered a team in the first grade competition and joined Auckland Rugby League foundation clubs Ponsonby United, City Rovers, North Shore Albions, and Newton Rangers.[5] They also held their early practises at the Avondale Racecourse.[6] They held a practice match with Ponsonby on the Avondale Racecourse on 13 May.[7] They had a bye in the first round and so played an A and B match at the racecourse in order to select a “junior team”.[8] They then entered a team in the third grade as well as their senior side in A grade.[9] The results for the third grade were only partially reported. The side had 2 wins and 3 losses reported.

The Eden Ramblers first playing squad was Mew, Bert Denyer, John Denyer, Noone, Bob (Robert) Biggs, Prosser, W. Fairweather, Morrow, Don Kenealy, Ray, Brett, J Cummings, A. Walker, Harris (2), O. Patterson, and R. McGowan.[10] Their first ever official match was played against Ponsonby United at Victoria Park on 27 May. They were defeated 49 points to 10.[11] Their first ever win, which was their only one of the season was against Newton Rangers on 22 July at the Auckland Domain. They won the match 14 to 5 with Don Kenealy scoring a try, Harris 2, Fairweather 1, and Kenealy kicking a penalty.[12]

J. Cummings became their first representative player when he was selected in the forwards to play for Auckland against New Zealand on 10 June.[13] [14]

During the season they held a dance at Avondale, and another at Point Chevalier. They had also rented out the Point Chevalier Hall for two nights a week for eight months.[15]

1912 Season

Their committee in 1912 was president Mr. John Bollard, M.P., vice presidents, Messrs. T. Dignan, John Potter, T.B. Clay, T. Kennealy, A.W. Page, A. Grandison, T. gardiner, Anderson, Robertson, J. Hankin, T.J. McIvor, Muir, Alley, W. Faulder, Dr. Rossiter, Secretary treasurer and delegate to the Auckland Rugby League; Mr. T.G. McIlroy; Assistant secretary, Mr. H. Morrow; Players delegates Messrs. Biggs, Kennealey, social committee, Messrs. W. and H. Fairweather, Dwyer, Biggs and Patterson. They were to hold their 1912 annual concert once again in the Point Chevalier Hall.[16]

The 1912 season also saw them field a third grade team once again. Of their reported matches they won 3 and lost 3 and finished mid table. Eden also fielded a fourth grade side which was reported to have won 1 game and lost 3 with a handful of other scores not reported. Then in 1913 they fielded two sides in the third grade and one in the fourth grade.

Exit

The team struggled and ultimately folded in 1913. On 5 April 1919 the Auckland Star reported that a "new club that has just been affiliated is the Eden Ramblers, boys from Avondale and Point Chevalier". The new team however was not to become known as the Eden Ramblers but in fact were named Point Chevalier.[17]

Playing record

In 1911 they played 7 matches with 1 win and 6 losses leaving them in last place. The 1912 season saw Eden record a 2 win, 1 draw, 8 loss record. Both of their wins were against City Rovers (10-6 and 25–5).[18] [19] While their draw was against Ponsonby.[20] They also entered a team in the 3rd grade competition where they won 3 and lost three to finish 4th out of 7 teams. During the 1912 season Don Kenealy was selected to play for New Zealand on their tour of Australia. He played 4 matches for them on the wing. He also played 4 times for Auckland scoring a try against Lower Waikato. While halfback Thomas Herbert (Bert) Biggs was their only other Auckland representative for the season playing in the same match.[21] Eden also fielded teams in the third grade and fourth grade. In 1913 they only lasted 5 games in the first grade competition before being unable to field a team. Their lone win in a 1 win, 4 loss season was against Manukau.

They finished their two and a half seasons with a 4 win, 1 draw, 18 loss record in the first grade. The club did not field any teams beyond the end of the 1913 season.

Myers Cup (first grade championship)

width=30 Seasonwidth=100 abbr="Name" Namewidth=20 abbr="Played" Pldwidth=20 abbr="Won" Wwidth=20 abbr="Drawn" Dwidth=20 abbr="Lost" Lwidth=20 abbr="Points for" PFwidth=20 abbr="Points against" PAwidth=20 abbr="Points difference" PDwidth=20 abbr="Points" Ptswidth=150 Position (Teams)
1911Eden Ramblers710642149-1072Fifth (Five)
1912Eden Ramblers1021878210-1325Sixth (Six)
1913Eden Ramblers510418124-1062Fifth (Six)
1911-13Total224118138483-3459N/A

Senior team players and point scorers (1911-1913)

This list is compiled from published team lists and match reports in the Auckland Star and New Zealand Herald. There were several matches with no team lists published or with limited point scoring details as such the list is only about 80% complete.

Top point scorers
NoPlayerStartEndGamesTriesConPenPts<-- Pos Player Start End GamesTriesConPenPts-->
1Don Kenealy191119131446534
2G Harris19111912850015
3A Innes1912-83009
4Thomas Herbert (Bert) Biggs19111913172108
5Bright1912191362006
6Brett1911191281105
7Bond19121913111003
7J Cummings1911-61003
7Bertram Denyer19111913141003
7W Fairweather19111912141003
7McSweeney1912-11003
7Emmet Kenealy1912-81003
13A Walker19111912100000
13Postlewaite1912191390000
13William Prosser1911191290000
13Hawkes1912-60000
13Noone1911-60000
13John Denyer1913-50000
13Maurice1912-50000
13McFadgen1912-40000
13Morris1912-40000
13Ray/Rae1911-50000
13J Allen1913-40000
13P Neville1913-40000
13W Proctor1912-40000
13Wain1911-40000
13Barton1912-30000
13H Bert1913-30000
13V Elliott1912191330000
13Hardman1911-30000
13Hutchinson1912-30000
13James1912-30000
13Toroa1911-30000
13Barker1912191320000
13Cole1913-20000
13Fisher1913-20000
13Thompson1913-20000
13Walworth1912-20000
13Clarke1912-10000
13Edwards1912-10000
13Fuller1913-10000
13Hennessey1911-10000
13Lilly1912-10000
13Mansell1912-10000
13McCown1911-10000
13McDonald1912-10000
13McKenzie1912-10000
13Ramsey1912-10000
13Rowe1912-10000
13Sylvado1913-10000
13Wilson1912-10000

Head to Head records

Top point scorers
OpponentStartEndGamesWinsDrawsLossesDefaults/ForfeitsForAgainst<-- Opponent Start End Games Wins Draws LossesDefaults/ForfeitsForAgainst-->
Ponsonby United191119135014033158
Newton Rangers191119135104031130
North Shore Albions191119135005014111
City Rovers19111913420204149
Manukau Rovers19121913310211935
TOTAL22 41171138383

Representative players

New Zealand

width15 Playerwidth=35 abbr="Years" Yearswidth=5 abbr="Appearances" Appearanceswidth=5 abbr="Tries" Trieswidth=5 abbr="Goals" Goalswidth=5 abbr="Points" Pointswidth=15 abbr="New Zealand" New Zealandwidth=5 abbr="Appearances" Appearanceswidth=5 abbr="Points" Points
1911-13 (Eden Ramblers)1641134191240

Auckland

Auckland B

Notes and References

  1. News: Club at Avondale. 7. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14652. 1911-04-11. 2021-07-17.
  2. News: New Club Formed. 6. Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 88. 1911-04-13. 2021-07-17.
  3. News: The Northern Union Game/Eden Ramblers Club. 4. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14666. 1911-04-28. 2021-07-17.
  4. News: The Northern Union Game/Eden Ramblers Club. 9. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14667. 1911-04-29. 2023-05-05.
  5. News: Auckland Provincial League. 9. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14670. 1911-05-03. 2021-07-17.
  6. News: Northern Union Football. 7. Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 106. 1911-05-05. 2021-07-17.
  7. News: Eden Ramblers. 6. Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 112. 1911-05-12. 2021-07-17.
  8. News: Eden Ramblers. 8. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14684. 1911-05-19. 2021-07-17.
  9. News: Auckland Provincial League. 7. Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 121. 1911-05-23. 2021-07-17.
  10. News: Eden Ramblers V. Ponsonby United. 9. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLVIII, Issue 14690. 1911-05-26. 2021-07-17.
  11. News: Newton v City. 8. Auckland Star. XLII. 126. 1911-05-29. 2019-12-09.
  12. News: Eden v Newton. 8. Auckland Star. XLII. 174. 1911-07-24. 2019-12-09.
  13. News: Representative Match/Auckland V. New Zealand. 8. Auckland Star, Volume XLII, Issue 132. 1911-06-05. 2021-07-17.
  14. News: New Zealand v Auckland/Win for Dominion Team. 8. Auckland Star. XLII. 138. 1911-06-12. 2019-12-15.
  15. News: Eden Ramblers Club. 4. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLIX, Issue 14956. 1912-04-01. 2021-07-17.
  16. News: Football Concert. 5. New Zealand Herald, Volume XLIX, Issue 15068. 1938-08-10. 2021-07-16.
  17. News: Northern Union. 18. Auckland Star, Volume L, Issue 82. 1919-04-05. 2021-09-20.
  18. News: Eden Ramblers V City Rovers. 8. Auckland Star. XLIII. 138. 1912-06-10. 2019-12-16.
  19. News: Eden Ramblers Win . 9 . The New Zealand Herald. XLIX. 15051 . 1912-08-22 . 2019-08-11.
  20. News: Eden Surprise Ponsonby . 9 . The New Zealand Herald. XLIX. 15039 . 1912-07-08 . 2019-08-11.
  21. News: Lower Waikato Wins by 21 to 13. 9. The New Zealand Herald. XLIX. 15063. 1912-08-05. 2019-12-18.