Further Seems Forever Explained

Further Seems Forever
Landscape:yes
Background:group_or_band
Origin:Pompano Beach, Florida, U.S.
Genre:Emo, indie rock
Years Active:1998–2006, 2010–present
Label:Tooth & Nail, Rise, Iodine, Undecided, Takehold, 567
Associated Acts:Strongarm, Vacant Andys, Shai Hulud, Dashboard Confessional, Affinity, Sense Field, Fields Forever, ActionReaction
Current Members:Jason Gleason
Josh Colbert
Nick Dominguez
Steve Kleisath
Chad Neptune
Past Members:Chris Carrabba
Derick Cordoba
Jon Bunch
Jake Clark
Tom English

Further Seems Forever is an American rock band formed in 1998 in Pompano Beach, Florida. Over its initial eight-year run the band experienced several lineup changes, resulting in a different lead vocalist performing on each of their first three studio albums. Original singer Chris Carrabba recorded The Moon Is Down (2001) with the group before leaving to start Dashboard Confessional. He was replaced by Jason Gleason, who performed on How to Start a Fire (2003) but left the band the following year. Former Sense Field vocalist Jon Bunch joined Further Seems Forever for Hide Nothing (2004). The band broke up in 2006 but reunited four years later with Carrabba on vocals. Their fourth studio album, Penny Black, was released in 2012.

The band's music is often classified as indie rock and is frequently associated with the emo genre. They have also been classified as a Christian rock act due to the individual band members' religious beliefs, frequent themes of Christianity in their lyrics, their association with the predominantly Christian Tooth & Nail Records label, and their performances at Christian-themed festivals such as Cornerstone and Furnace Fest.[1] Despite these associations, the group has claimed not to be an explicitly Christian band, but rather a rock band with Christian members.[2]

History

1998–2001: Formation, Chris Carrabba, and The Moon Is Down

The band formed in 1998 in Pompano Beach, Florida after the breakup of the Christian hardcore band Strongarm. Strongarm guitarists Josh Colbert and Nick Dominguez, bassist Chad Neptune, and drummer Steve Kleisath recruited former Vacant Andys and Red Letter Day vocalist Chris Carrabba to form Further Seems Forever. The first song the new band released was "Vengeance Factor" on the Deep Elm Records compilation An Ocean of Doubt: The Emo Diaries, Chapter Four, which contributed to the band's association with the emo genre. Their first release was a split EP with fellow Floridians Recess Theory entitled From the 27th State, released by Takehold Records, and soon the band had signed a recording contract with Seattle-based Christian label Tooth and Nail Records. By 2000, however, Carrabba had begun working on his own project Dashboard Confessional and recorded the album The Swiss Army Romance, essentially a solo release which he considered too personal for Further Seems Forever. At this time the band struggled with interpersonal squabbles and difficulties touring, as Dominguez had a young family and was reluctant to tour outside the state. This forced the group to search for several fill-in guitarists to replace him on tour. After returning from a solo tour in August 2000 Carrabba announced that he was leaving the group in order to focus on Dashboard Confessional full-time:

"I knew the only chance I had to make it in the music scene was go out there and do all the legwork to push yourself and make yourself known...I was willing to do that and they weren't. They were playing music around their jobs, not as their jobs. It was like, if we're gonna be a band, let's be a band. This isn't going to happen by itself."

Despite this decision, Carrabba joined the band the following month to record their debut album The Moon Is Down, released in 2001 by Tooth & Nail. Relations between him and the other band members remained amicable, and Further Seems Forever would later open for Dashboard Confessional on several occasions.

2001–2004: Jason Gleason and How to Start a Fire

After Carrabba's departure the band recruited Jason Gleason of Affinity as their new vocalist. With Gleason they re-recorded their cover version of "Say It Ain't So" for the compilation with Gleason's version appearing on the CD and Carraba's version appearing as a vinyl only bonus track.[3] [4] They also recorded a cover of "Bye Bye Bye" for the compilation Punk Goes Pop.

In August 2001, the band played Furnace Fest,[5] [6] and next embarked on a tour of the United States' East Coast and Midwest with Ultimate Fakebook, As Friends Rust and Keepsake in August and September 2001.[7] [8] [9] [10] The tour was cut short, however, following the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York City.[11] Further Seems Forever and As Friends Rust cancelled the last five dates of the tour as a result, since they were playing in the vicinity of New York, culminating in New York City itself on September 14, 2001. In December 2001, they toured around Florida with Dashboard Confessional, The Rocking Horse Winner, Fairweather and Seville as part of the Pompano on the Go Tour.[12] [13] [14]

In 2003, Dominguez then left the group to pursue a record label venture, Pop Up Record. He ran the label with Derick Cordoba, who replaced him in Further Seems Forever. This lineup recorded the band's second album How to Start a Fire, released in 2003, and supported it with a national touring schedule. In February 2003, the band toured with Elliott, The Early November and Salem.[15] [16] In 2003, Further Seems Forever signed with Undecided Records to finance their own imprint record label Pompano Basic, with plans to release a compilation of rare and unreleased material.[17] [18] The release took much longer to complete and was ultimately released bundled with a live DVD as The Final Curtain in April 2007, by which time Undecided Records had changed name to 567 Records.[19]

In early 2004, as work on a third album was beginning, the group had a falling out with Gleason which resulted in his departure. In a 2006 interview he blamed the split on "completely irrational behavior on a daily basis. Mistrust. Fights. Anger. Jealousy. A very unhealthy relationship."[20] Gleason went on to form ActionReaction in 2005 with his wife Crissie "Bella" Verhagen and released the album Three is the Magic Number in 2006.[21]

2004–2006: Jon Bunch, Hide Nothing, and breakup

To replace Gleason the band recruited vocalist Jon Bunch of the recently disbanded Sense Field. With Bunch, they released the album Hide Nothing (2004) and continued to tour internationally.[22] The band teamed up with Brandtson, The Kicks, Moments in Grace and Salem for the "Hide Nothing Tour", which spanned from August 22 to October 4, 2004.[23] [24] The tour took the bands through the United States' West Coast (including a date in Western Canada), the Midwest and the East Coast.[25] The band next partnered with Sparta, Copeland and Sunshine for another American and Canadian tour which spanned from November 5 to December 6, 2004.[26] [27]

From February 15 to March 14, 2005, the band toured the United States with The Starting Line, Days Away and JamisonParker.[28] On April 5, 2005, the band released the acoustic EP Hope Against Hope.[29] On April 30, 2005, the band played a reunion show with the original members, including Carrabba and Dominguez, at The Bamboozle, at which they performed The Moon Is Down in its entirety.[30] [31] With Bunch back on vocals, Further Seems Forever toured Europe during May and June 2005, joined by bass guitarist Thomas Rankine (formerly of As Friends Rust and Salem).

In November 2005, they announced a hiatus, which was followed by an announcement in January 2006 that their upcoming tour of the United States and Canada with Bunch would be their final performances, as the members' families and other commitments had eclipsed their interests in the band. As Neptune stated:

"As I sit here reflecting back on my time with FSF, saying to myself 'what happens when your dreams have come true already?' Well my answer is 'it probably wasn't my dream all along.' Sure maybe it was part of my calling but the truth is that making a family has been the goal ever since I can remember. My family is what I live for now and I am very glad to do so."[32]

Tooth & Nail released a "best of" retrospective album that April entitled Hope This Finds You Well, and the band's farewell performance occurred June 17, 2006 at The Masquerade in Atlanta, Georgia. This performance was recorded and released as a live album and DVD by 567 Records in April 2007, entitled The Final Curtain.

2007–2010: Post-breakup activity

Following the band's breakup Bunch and Cordoba formed Fields Forever, a duo project performing acoustic renditions of Further Seems Forever and Sense Field songs which toured across Europe. Other members went on to other projects, with Kleisath joined a group called En Masse in early 2006 and Cordoba joining Kicked Out Heel Drag in early 2007.

2010–present: Reunion with Carrabba

Further Seems Forever reunited with original singer Chris Carrabba in August 2010.[33] Further Seems Forever and Dashboard Confessional both played the Groezrock festival in April 2011.[34] The band's fourth studio album, Penny Black, was released in October 2012 through Rise Records.[35]

In August 2015, it was announced that Gleason had rejoined the band.[36]

Former frontman Jon Bunch died on January 31, 2016, in Irvine, California at the age of 45.[37] [38]

In the fall of 2021, the band played the Furnace Festival with the Gleason-era lineup.

On February 2, 2022, it was announced that Further Seems Forever would reunite with the original lineup to celebrate 20 years of The Moon Is Down at the Breakfast in Franklin, Tennessee.[39]

In February 2024, the band signed with Iodine Recordings.[40]

Personnel

Current members
Former members
Timeline

Discography

Artist:Further Seems Forever
Studio:4
Music Videos:4
Ep:1
Compilation:1
Singles:1
Live:1
Option:3
Option Name:Other appearances

The discography of Further Seems Forever consists of four studio albums, one live album, one compilation album, one EP, one single, and four music videos.

Studio albums

YearAlbum detailsPeak chart positions
US
Billboard 200
[41] [42]
Christian
[43]
Heatseekers
[44]
2001The Moon Is Down[45]
  • Released: March 27, 2001
  • Label: Tooth & Nail Records
  • Format: CD, LP
<-- Billboard 200 --> —<-- Christian --> —<-- Heatseekers --> —
2003How to Start a Fire[46]
  • Released: February 11, 2003
  • Label: Tooth & Nail Records
  • Format: CD, LP
<-- Billboard 200 --> 133<-- Christian --> 6<-- Heatseekers --> 1
2004Hide Nothing[47]
  • Released: August 24, 2004
  • Label: Tooth & Nail Records
  • Format: CD, LP
<-- Billboard 200 --> 122<-- Christian --> 4<-- Heatseekers --> 3
2012Penny Black <-- Billboard 200 --> 62<-- Christian --> 3<-- Heatseekers --> —
" - " denotes releases that did not chart.

Singles

YearSingle details
2002Further Seems Forever / Twothirtyeight
  • Released: December 17, 2002
  • Label: Tooth & Nail
  • Format: 7"
2010Acoustic 7"
  • Released: December 21, 2010
  • Label: Self-Released
  • Format: 7"
2012So Cold

Music videos

YearSongDirectorAlbum
2001"Snowbirds and Townies"The Moon Is Down
2003"The Sound"How to Start a Fire
2004"Light Up Ahead"Hide Nothing
2012"So Cold"Caleb Mallery Penny Black

Other appearances

The following Further Seems Forever songs were released on compilation albums. This is not an exhaustive list; songs that were first released on the band's albums, EPs, and singles are not included.

YearRelease detailsTrack
1999An Ocean of Doubt[50]
  • Released: September 28, 1999
  • Label: Deep Elm
  • Format: CD
  • "Vengeance Factor"
2002[51]
  • Released: January 22, 2002
  • Label: Dead Droid
  • Format: CD
Punk Goes Pop[52]
  • Released: April 2, 2002
  • Label: Fearless
  • Format: CD

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  5. Web site: August 2, 2001 . The Bands . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20010802222920/http://takehold.com/furnacefest/bands.html . August 2, 2001 . September 25, 2022 . Takehold Records.
  6. Web site: August 1, 2001 . Schedule . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20010801180325/http://takehold.com/furnacefest/schedule.html . August 1, 2001 . September 25, 2022 . Takehold Records.
  7. Web site: Heisel . Scott . August 21, 2001 . Further Seems Forever Tour w/As Friends Rust, Ultimate Fakebook . live . https://web.archive.org/web/20191222111938/https://www.punknews.org/article/1848/further-seems-forever-tour-w-as-friends-rust-ultimate-fakebook . December 22, 2019 . March 23, 2022 . Punk News . en.
  8. Web site: Hemsath . Dirk . 2001 . Doghouse Records/Tour Information . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20010418042158fw_/http://www.doghouserecords.com/dogtour.html . April 18, 2001 . December 30, 2021 . Doghouse Records.
  9. Web site: Hemsath . Dirk . April 22, 2001 . As Friends Rust Tour Info . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20010422162454/http://www.doghouserecords.com/tour_asfr.html . April 22, 2001 . March 23, 2022 . Doghouse Records.
  10. Web site: August 4, 2001 . Shows . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20010804193457/http://www.dchardcore.net/afr/shows.html . August 4, 2001 . December 30, 2021 . As Friends Rust.
  11. Web site: As Friends Rust News (February 2001 to February 2002) . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20020205203934/http://www.dchardcore.net/afr/info.html . February 5, 2002 . March 20, 2022 . As Friends Rust.
  12. Web site: Stratton . Jeff . December 27, 2002 . Onward, Chris's Soldiers . May 2, 2022 . . Miami New Times.
  13. Web site: October 18, 2001 . Shows . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20011018104541/http://www.equalvision.com:80/shows.html . October 18, 2001 . May 1, 2022 . Equal Vision Records.
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  15. Web site: February 8, 2003 . Tour Dates . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20030208103436/http://www.furtherseemsforever.com/tourpage.html . February 8, 2003 . October 6, 2022 . Further Seems Forever.
  16. Web site: January 2, 2003 . Salem's Winter Surprise . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20030212073558/http://www.punkmusic.com/displaynews.cfm?view=-90&fuseaction=showview . February 12, 2003 . October 6, 2022 . Punk Music.
  17. Web site: June 29, 2003. Undecided Records hooks up w/ Pompano Basic. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20121007224404/https://lambgoat.com/news/2548/Undecided-Records-hooks-up-w--Pompano-Basic. October 7, 2012. March 29, 2021. Lambgoat.
  18. Web site: Further Seems Forever retrospective due out soon. live. https://web.archive.org/web/20210329054501/https://www.punknews.org/article/6468/further-seems-forever-retrospective-due-out-soon. 2021-03-29. 2021-03-29. Punk News. 4 July 2003 . en.
  19. Web site: 2007-02-22. 567 Records. 2021-03-29. https://web.archive.org/web/20070222094840/http://www.567records.com/news.php. 2007-02-22.
  20. Web site: ActionReaction. Savage. Paul. October 12, 2006. Punktastic. en-GB. 2016-06-17.
  21. Web site: ActionReaction Biography & History. Apar. Corey. AllMusic. 2016-06-17.
  22. Web site: MacNeil . Jason . Corey Apar . 2006 . [{{AllMusic|class=artist|id=p473888/biography|pure_url=yes}} Further Seems Forever biography ]. 2007-04-30 . Allmusic.
  23. Web site: Aubin . Paul . August 14, 2004 . Further Seems Forever news . live . https://web.archive.org/web/20220614190934/https://www.punknews.org/article/9963/further-seems-forever-news . June 14, 2022 . June 14, 2022 . Punk News . en.
  24. Web site: 2004-08-04 . Further Seems Forever Tour Dates Announced . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20040804174257/http://www.punkbands.com/index.php?id=8300 . August 4, 2004 . June 14, 2022 . Punk Bands.
  25. Web site: August 21, 2004 . Tour Dates . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20040821081225/http://www.atlanticrecords.com/tour.php . August 21, 2004 . June 14, 2022 . Atlantic Records.
  26. Web site: 2005-02-13 . Tooth & Nail Records . 2022-11-14 . https://web.archive.org/web/20050213055247/http://www.toothandnail.com/news_details.php?news_id=306 . 2005-02-13 .
  27. Web site: Punknews.org . Tours: Sparta / Further Seems Forever / Copeland / Sunshine . 2022-11-14 . www.punknews.org . 27 October 2004 . en.
  28. Web site: 2005-02-04 . The Starting Line Events . 2022-11-14 . https://web.archive.org/web/20050204043218/http://www.startinglinerock.com/events/default.asp . 2005-02-04 .
  29. Web site: 2006-05-13 . Tooth & Nail Records . 2022-11-14 . https://web.archive.org/web/20060513102032/http://www.toothandnail.com/news_details.php?news_id=519 . 2006-05-13 .
  30. Web site: Punknews.org . Further Seems Forever original lineup to headline Bamboozle . 2022-11-14 . www.punknews.org . 23 December 2004 . en.
  31. Web site: 2005-02-05 . Tooth & Nail Records . 2022-11-14 . https://web.archive.org/web/20050205000558/http://www.toothandnail.com/news_details.php?news_id=408 . 2005-02-05 .
  32. Chad Neptune. The Final Curtain. CD/DVD liner notes. 567 Records. 2007.
  33. Heisel . Scott . Exclusive: Further Seems Forever reuniting with Chris Carrabba . 2010-08-24 . . 2010-09-07.
  34. Web site: Paul . Aubin . Groezrock 2011 with NOFX, Millencolin, Further Seems Forever, Teenage Bottlerocket . Punknews.org . 2010-10-21 . 2010-11-23.
  35. Colwell . Matthew . Further Seems Forever Sign to Rise Records, New Album Penny Black Out October 23 . . 2012-08-02 . 2012-08-02.
  36. Web site: Further Seems Forever's Jason Gleason Returns with 'How to Start a Fire' Lineup for 'Closure'; Says 'More Shows' Coming. Sarachik. Justin. 2015-08-21. BREATHEcast. 2016-06-17.
  37. Web site: Heisel. Scott. Jon Bunch, former vocalist of Further Seems Forever and Sense Field, dead at 45. Substream Magazine. 3 February 2016. 4 February 2016. https://web.archive.org/web/20160204222605/http://substreammagazine.com/2016/02/jon-bunch-former-vocalist-of-further-seems-forever-and-sense-field-found-dead/. dead.
  38. Web site: Jon Bunch, Former Frontman of Sense Field and Further Seems Forever, Dead at 45. 2 February 2016 .
  39. Web site: We are so excited to start celebrating the 20+ year anniversary of "The Moon is Down" at Breakfest TN this year.. 2022-02-02. FSF Instagram. 2022-02-03.
  40. Web site: Further Seems Forever Sign with Iodine Records . 12 February 2024 .
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