Bad English Explained

Bad English
Origin:Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Years Active:1987–1991
Label:Epic
Past Members:John Waite
Neal Schon
Jonathan Cain
Ricky Phillips
Deen Castronovo

Bad English was an American/British hard rock supergroup formed in 1987. It reunited Journey keyboardist Jonathan Cain with singer John Waite and bassist Ricky Phillips, his former bandmates in the Babys, along with Journey guitarist Neal Schon and drummer Deen Castronovo. The band is known for their hit single "When I See You Smile", which peaked at number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in November 1989.[1]

History

The members decided on a name for the band while playing pool. John Waite missed a shot and Jonathan Cain made a comment on how bad his "" was (referring to the spin a player puts on the cue ball), and the band decided to use the phrase.[2]

Jonathan Cain and guitarist Neal Schon, members of the successful rock band Journey, formed Bad English with Waite after Journey disbanded.[3] They were joined by Ricky Phillips, who had played bass for the Babys on two albums with Waite and Cain, and drummer Deen Castronovo.

The band's first album, Bad English, was a big seller. It contained three top-40 hit singles: the number one hit "When I See You Smile", the top 10 hit "Price of Love", and "Possession".

The album's first single, however, was "Forget Me Not". It stalled outside the top 40 at number 45, but the single peaked at number 2 on the Mainstream Rock chart. The second single, "When I See You Smile", was their biggest hit, peaking at number 1 on the Hot 100. The song is also notable for being one of only two songs (the other being "Don't Walk Away") to be entirely written by an outside writer without help from at least one member of the band.[4] "Best of What I Got" was released as a promotional single to Rock Radio, where the tune cracked the top 10.

From March to June 1990, the band toured across the US with Whitesnake in support of the album.[5]

The band's second album, Backlash, came and went without any fanfare. The only single, "Straight to Your Heart", missed the top 40, peaking at number 42. Ricky Phillips writes on his website that the group had parted company before the second album had been mixed. Both Phillips and guitarist Neal Schon expressed frustration with the "pop" side of the band's music and wanted a harder edge.
In the end, it proved to be the band's undoing as everyone left to pursue other projects.

Breakup

In later interviews, Waite revealed that although he loved playing to stadium-sized audiences, he was uncomfortable with the corporate rock image that he felt the band had presented. He returned to working as a solo artist. Schon and Castronovo joined the fledgling rock band Hardline in 1991; however, both would leave the group not long after the release of its debut album, with Schon pursuing other projects and Castronovo joining Ozzy Osbourne's band. In the mid-1990s, Schon rejoined Cain, who had released two solo albums in the interim, in a reformed Journey. Castronovo also joined Journey in 1998, eventually leaving in 2015. He later became a member of the Dead Daisies and Revolution Saints before returning to Journey in 2021. Meanwhile, Phillips returned to session work, recording with artists such as Coverdale/Page, Bobby Kimball and Eddie Money before joining Styx in the early 2000s.

In popular culture

"Best of What I Got", from the band's first album, is featured during the credits to the 1989 movie Tango & Cash starring Sylvester Stallone and Kurt Russell.

Band members

Discography

Studio albums

YearAlbum detailsPeak chart positionsCertifications
(sales threshold)
US
[6]
AUS
[7] [8]
CAN
[9]
SWE
[10]
SWI
[11]
UK
[12]
1989Bad English 2112343974
1991Backlash
  • Release date: August 1991
  • Label: Epic Records
7215934213064
"—" denotes releases that did not chart

Singles

YearSinglePeak chart positionsCertifications
(sales threshold)
Album
US
US AC
[15]
US Main
[16]
AUS
[17] [18]
UK
NL
[19]
1989"Forget Me Not"452Bad English
"When I See You Smile"11110461
"Price of Love"538304480
"Best of What I Got"9
1990"Heaven Is a 4 Letter Word"6612124
"Possession"2142
"Don't Walk Away"110
1991"Straight to Your Heart"42911641Backlash
"Time Stood Still"19
"—" denotes releases that did not chart or not released to that country

Notes and References

  1. Hot 100 . March 16, 2021 . Billboard.
  2. Web site: Rock Band Name Origins at WHAT'S IN A NAME. thinkquest.org. https://web.archive.org/web/20060831050940/http://library.thinkquest.org/4626/rock.htm . August 31, 2006 .
  3. News: A Rousing Reception for Bad English. Daily News of Los Angeles. January 29, 1990. newsbank.com.
  4. Web site: Giles . Jeff . June 26, 2015 . How Journey and The Babys Alumni Rose and Fell in Bad English . March 16, 2021 . Ultimate Classic Rock . en.
  5. Web site: July 4, 2008 . Life Story of John Waite – Bad English. https://web.archive.org/web/20080704075015/http://www.johnwaite.com/lifestory/badenglish.htm. July 4, 2008 . March 16, 2021 . johnwaite.com.
  6. Billboard 200 . March 16, 2021 . Billboard.
  7. Web site: australian-charts.com – Australian charts portal . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20121011205338/http://www.australian-charts.com/search.asp?cat=a&search=Bad+English . October 11, 2012 . January 23, 2010 . australian-charts.com.
  8. Web site: Bubbling Down Under Week Commencing October 14, 1991. Bubbling Down Under. October 14, 2022.
  9. Web site: Results – RPM – Library and Archives Canada: Top Albums/CDs . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20121017235408/http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/rpm/028020-110.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=lq498cep6giiqq58vjqcsvvs20&q1=Bad+English&q2=Top+Albums%2FCDs&interval=20 . October 17, 2012 . August 11, 2010 . RPM.
  10. Web site: swedishcharts.com – Swedish charts portal . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20121024114142/http://swedishcharts.com/search.asp?cat=a&search=bad+english . October 24, 2012 . January 23, 2010 . swedishcharts.com.
  11. Web site: hitparade.ch – Swiss charts portal . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20121110203036/http://hitparade.ch/search.asp?search=bad+english&cat=a . November 10, 2012 . January 23, 2010 . hitparde.ch.
  12. Web site: Bad English – Full Official Chart History . January 20, 2016 . Official Charts Company .
  13. Web site: Gold & Platinum . March 16, 2021 . RIAA . en-US.
  14. Web site: Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA): Gold & Platinum . dead . https://archive.today/20130721100602/http://www.musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=bad&ica=False&sa=english&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Artist . July 21, 2013 . July 21, 2013 . Music Canada.
  15. Adult Contemporary . March 16, 2021 . Billboard.
  16. Mainstream Rock . March 16, 2021 . Billboard.
  17. Web site: australian-charts.com – Australian charts portal . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20121016081416/http://www.australian-charts.com/search.asp?search=Bad+English&cat=s . October 16, 2012 . December 5, 2010 . australian-charts.com.
  18. Web site: Week commencing 11 June 1990. bubblingdownunder. June 11, 2021. June 11, 2021.
  19. Web site: dutchcharts.nl – Dutch charts portal . dead . https://web.archive.org/web/20121025054000/http://dutchcharts.nl/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Bad+English . October 25, 2012 . February 24, 2011 . Hung Medien.
  20. Web site: 1990 ARIA Singles Chart . August 13, 2020 . ARIA.