Ancient and modern arms explained

Ancient and modern are terms used in heraldry to differentiate two different coats of arms used at different periods by a family or other bearer. Reasons for changing arms have been numerous, the most famous being the 1376 change in the French royal arms by Charles V of France to show three fleurs-de-lis instead of semee de lis, possibly to symbolize the Holy Trinity. The reasons for other changes were more prosaic, for example where a court of chivalry ordered a change or differencing where two families claimed the same arms, as in the famous case of Scrope v Grosvenor. The resulting two versions of arms are referred to as "France ancient" and "France modern", "Grosvenor ancient" and "Grosvenor modern".

List of examples

Family Ancient arms Modern arms Date of change Notes
Capet (Royal arms of France)1376See article Royal Arms of France
Portugal (Royal arms of Portugal)1245 (first version of Portugal modern)/1485 (current version)See article Coat of arms of Portugal
Denmark (Coat of arms of Denmark)1819Originally the lions were heraldic leopards facing the viewer and the number of hearts (officially blazoned as waterlily pads) was not defined and could be much larger than today. The lions were defined as heraldic lions and the number of hearts specified to nine in 1819.
Grosvenor1389See article Scrope v Grosvenor
Gorges1347See article Warbelton v Gorges
Percy1273-1314See article Henry de Percy, 1st Baron Percy
TalbotSee article Baron Talbot. Modern arms are of Rhys Mechyll (d.1244), Prince of the Welsh House of Dinefwr, grandson of Rhys ap Gruffydd), whose daughter Gwenllian was the wife of Gilbert Talbot (d.1274), grandfather of Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron Talbot (d.1345/6)
Cantilupe1275-1282See article Thomas de Cantilupe
KilligrewSee article Arwenack
Scudamore
Crewebef. 1303Sir Thomas de Crewe, Lord of Crewe used a seal depicting fretwork with quatrefoils filling in the spaces.[1] His son Patrick would begin using a lion rampant, which became the modern arms of Crewe.[2] See the 17th century portrait of Sir Ranulphe Crewe by Peter Lely for a quartered depiction of both arms.

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Notes and References

  1. Carter p. 117 The Early Crewe Pedigree
  2. Hinchliffe p. 363 (Barthomley: In Letters from a Former Rector to his Eldest Son)